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About benwinter
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Mar 16, 2023
benwinter
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Jan 24, 2023
05:47 PM
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Commenting since I keep getting email notifications when people keep saying the same thing on this comment chain: There is a very simple way to Resolve this situation. Everyone commenting here has been betrayed by Adobe software. You're allowed one bogey when Premiere causes you to lose a project or a deadline. After that, it was your mistake to stick around. If you're expecting Premiere to suddenly get better after a decade of instability and lack of response to major bugs and performance issues...well, as the adage goes, fool me once...
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Jan 24, 2023
08:56 AM
I just experienced a bug where exporting from Media Encoder caused the position of an audio clip to shift. And these export bugs in ME occur randomly and unpredictably. ME is unreliable. So the advice "please consider incorporating Media Encoder" is useless, if Media Encoder can't be relied upon to faithfully export my timelines.
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Jan 24, 2023
08:54 AM
Patrick et al, I wonder if your test base accurately represented the professional users who need to export iterations to send out for review to clients and agencies. The new export window seems woefully ill-equipped for that, and the filesystem naming snafu seems like a pretty obvious piece of evidence that Adobe wasn't thinking about us. For people who have to access this export process dozens of times a day to export versions that are only slightly different, we need a compact window with everything in the center of the screen and close together. Basically, how it was before. Surely you can understand how we don't need a giant window to watch our masterpiece again that we've already seen a million times. Surely you can understand how a window that takes up the entire screen with a giant preview monitor and buttons on either side seems bizarrely out of touch to us and a total miss? This new window seems designed for the users who edit and then export once—i.e., YouTubers, and the rest of us are feeling a bit left out.
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Jan 24, 2023
08:49 AM
Patrick & co, Thanks for responding to my questions, it is appreciated. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but this change has galvanized me to learn Resolve and move away from Premiere as soon as possible. I just can't understand why this feature would be modified at all when there are much more pressing issues with Premiere that need to be fixed. It's 2022 and people are rendering entire 3D worlds in real-time. Why is Premiere's interface laggy on my $14,000 2019 Mac Pro workstation and 5K monitor but smooth on my M1 laptop? Why does the basic action of moving a clip break its rendered preview and I have to render it again? I filed a bug over a year ago where my UI slows down when audio waveforms are open in the source window. I confirmed the issue on multiple Intel Mac machines. The forum has a few PC users with this problem too. Kevin Monahan said "yep it's a bug. File it" So I did—but but no one has followed up; the bug is still unfixed, and it's a total productivity killer. Resolve, meanwhile, is as smooth as butter, and it's free. The new export window is an issue by itself, but I'm really struggling to understand why so much time and resources were invested into rearranging a window rather than devoting them to badly needed basic refinements and fixes under the hood.
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Jan 24, 2023
08:41 AM
Hi Patrick, thanks for the response. First of all, I have been using Premiere for 15 years and not once was I presented with or was aware of the public beta. Nobody I have spoken with in my industry was aware of it either. "Reducing mouse mileage and reducing cognitive load was a primary target." Then why was the export button put by itself on the opposite side of my screen from the filename selector in the corner of a full-screen window that can't be resized? This is, quite frankly, madness. The mouse has no other reason to be on that side of the screen. Why not put the button next to everything else? On my 5K monitor, the amount of "mouse mileage" to export something now is comical and measured in feet. I had to write a script that aims the mouse at the export button in the lower right and tie it to a keyboard shortcut. This should be indication enough that this design choice is totally broken. It wouldn't be so bad if I could just hit Enter to start the encoding, but I'm aghast that that common-sense function is missing. There is no reason for a giant preview window in the export screen. The only reason you need to watch something fullscreen is for quality control which you should have done before you got to the export screen, or after it's been turned into a file. That is not what's important when selecting export options. It pushes all the important stuff (settings, filename, location, export button) to the edges of the screen away from my focus locus.
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Jan 24, 2023
08:40 AM
1 Upvote
I have a 5K LG screen. This new export screen takes up the whole window—why would you do that? Now all the critical information centers—filename, file path and the export button—have been pushed to the far edges of the screen. So to export a new file, I have to type in a filename in the upper left hand part of the screen—the browse for file feature is gone—then aim my mouse at a TINY Export button buried in the way lower right. Pressing Enter doesn't do anything! What used to be a painless and satisfying procedure is now torturous and I'm one typo away from messing up my exports. This is insanity. Are you guys playing a practical joke on us?
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Jan 24, 2023
08:40 AM
You spent all this time making a new UI, but none at all fixing critical performance bugs. Try this, everyone: open a waveform in the preview monitor, then scale that preview monitor up so it's taking up most of your screen. Now try to edit and observe that Premiere's interface has now slowed to a crawl. All this futzing with new interfaces we don't need and you still haven't fixed this fundamental bug. Unbelievable.
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Jan 24, 2023
08:40 AM
I am copy pasting this comment because I agree with it so much. "Perhaps the most annoying of the removals is the ability to quickly overwrite previous renders. For example, I used to be able to select a file (not a folder) as the render location, it would update the name of the file I was about to export, and it would ask me if I wanted to overwrite the file. Now, I need to manually overwrite a sequence's File Name on the Export screen, make sure it matches the file I'm trying to overwrite, and then click "Export". I'm fine with change but not when the software I'm using loses key features."
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Dec 02, 2022
05:11 AM
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I like how Adobe support replied to this thread “we’re here to help” back in June and then promptly disappeared from the conversation. This is why my CC subscription has disappeared from my list of things I buy. What a joke company.
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Dec 01, 2022
12:34 PM
1 Upvote
That flashing problem is crazy. Never seen that before. Premiere still contains a bug where the entire program will slow down the larger you make the Source window when there is a waveform displayed on it. It still hasn't been fixed; I think there is something deeply flawed or unoptimized about the way Premiere draws waveforms.
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Oct 07, 2022
08:43 AM
The problem happens to me regardless of display resolution.
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Oct 06, 2022
09:41 AM
Glad to hear it helped @danielbg, your 2019 Mac Pro setup should be way more than enough to handle editing, it's my setup as well (24-core version). I don't know why Premiere Pro has so many issues on it. I have an M1 MacBook Pro and Ppro runs like a champ on it.
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Oct 06, 2022
09:19 AM
No external monitor attached.
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Sep 27, 2022
01:25 PM
1 Upvote
I agree with your pragmatism Neil. Use what works. It's why I switched. I had to! I had no other choice. Sounds like you said what I would to the engineers. I'm sure they're nice people. Unfortunately whatever system Adobe have set up inside that company to develop Premiere simply isn't working. Over time I may develop my own issues with Resolve, but let's just get this out of the way: it just works in ways Premiere simply doesn't. It may end up frustrating me, but I'll take frustration over torture. There are certain bugs and issues I'm willing to entertain when the software is being ambitious. But you don't put out software that slows to a crawl just because you have a waveform open or using a 5K monitor at full resolution. You can't put out "professional" software that displays completely erroneous timecode after applying speed changes or replaces your footage with old files when you're not looking. These kinds of bugs existing for years are just absolutely stupid and there's no excuse for them. Adobe's response is always "file a bug report" and then in the next version you get the same issues with a brand new export window. Give me a break. Premiere is like NYC. Sure, it'll be truly great, just hang around until the construction is done. Thanks for letting me vent. Adobe's forced subscription model is the extra knife in the side. If you make me pay for your services ad infinitum, my needs should be responded to promptly, and your software better work. And to be fair, Adobe's tech support has always had the patience of a saint. But I paid $50 a month for years for software that owes me thousands in lost productivity and sanity. The chip on my shoulder may take a while to fill in.
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Sep 27, 2022
10:11 AM
Neil, When I hit play in Resolve, the footage actually plays back. There really isn't much else that needs to be said. If you're wondering what I'm talking about, MXF playback has been broken on select Apple machines since 2022 came out. Or how about the glitch that has existed for years where Replace footage... reverts to linking to old files when you open the project again, randomly. Adobe has known about both of these massive, catastrophic issues and done nothing. UI nags in Resolve like the ones you describe may be annoying but you can simply learn a different way to work. Premiere's problems are catastrophic in nature and in many cases there are no workarounds. The software simply doesn't function. I cannot begin to enumerate the amount of stress Adobe has introduced to my life over 10+ years via Premiere. And I've paid them thousands of dollars for the pleasure. To say I am seething is an understatement. Actually Ben ... they've been rebuilding all the code in the app over the last like three years now. Section by section. That's actually where some glitches that have come in have come in. This is exactly what I'm talking about, don't you see this is my point? Rather than rebuild the entire program from scratch, Adobe's idea of a rebuild is to attempt a patchwork of section-by-section updates that don't integrate with one another and create an unstable, unreliable program? That's not a rebuild, that's just called updating.
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Sep 27, 2022
07:40 AM
Fixing Premiere means rebuilding it from the ground up, and that will never, ever happen.
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Sep 27, 2022
07:35 AM
Switch to Resolve. I know this is a Premiere forum but I don't care. I've been editing on Premiere for over a decade like you. I cancelled my CC subscription last month and switching to Resolve has been absolutely life-changing. The amount of bugs and issues we put up with in this software is reprehensible. It's time to dump Premiere.
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Sep 27, 2022
07:31 AM
Hahaha. Now that I've switched to Resolve I can laugh about it. Imagine the absolute trash heap that must be the Premiere coding situation, for engineers to just give up on fixing such a massive issue. Ciao Adobe and your piece of sh*t software.
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Sep 22, 2022
11:07 AM
A few questions: What filetypes are these that you're working with? Does it go away if you convert them to another format? What is your playback resolution set to? Quarter, half, full? Is the problem affected if you change this setting? Does it look that way when you export to a file, or is it only during playback from the timeline?
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Sep 21, 2022
11:43 AM
Use the Creative Cloud Cleaner, which will wipe all evidence of CC from your system, and start again.
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Sep 20, 2022
07:55 AM
@frankw23052865post your hardware specs and what version of Ppro you're running. I had this problem too, but with audio waveforms being displayed in the source monitor. The problem resolved the more I shrunk the source window.
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Sep 20, 2022
07:35 AM
Can you pin down how your setup might have changed when this started occurring? OS update, any new hardware attached? Have you been trying Premiere with the same project file and footage? Does this happen all the time regardless of what footage you're editing with?
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Sep 20, 2022
07:32 AM
Keep reverting to older versions of Premiere until the issue goes away. 2021 (v15) worked for me. Or, do what I did, and switch to Resolve, and kiss all your problems goodbye forever.
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Sep 19, 2022
06:40 PM
The transcoding seems like the best option at this point. Re: getting to use Resolve, I had the same trepidation. It's actually much less to adjust to than you might be thinking. I transferred a project from Premiere to Resolve and was editing no problem within minutes. I felt comfortable like I knew the software enough to get around amost instantly. Highly recommend you give it a go.
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Sep 17, 2022
11:04 PM
2 Upvotes
Kevin, thanks for the response. I'm aghast that a bug that renders the software basically useless on a professional machine like the Mac Pro hasn't been addressed in half a year. Furthermore, there's not a single notice on Adobe's website alerting Mac users to this fact. The bug report webpage shows users from many different Mac products experiencing the same issue, both Intel and M1. A little outreach to the professionals trying to use this software would have been appreciated. Adobe has had months to investigate this issue, and it's not a small one. The MXF container is ubiquitous amongst professional camera systems. I've cancelled my CC subscription and switched Resolve and am beyond happy, but I didn't want to make this switch. I literally had no choice because Premiere straight up doesn't work anymore. Still reeling from the amount of money I've dumped into Adobe over the years only to be treated like this.
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Sep 15, 2022
02:59 PM
I have the same issue with MXF files from the Sony FX6. Adobe has known about the issue since April and still hasn't fixed it. To be absolutely clear what is going on here: Following the 2022 update, Premiere is straight-up incompatible with one of the most popular video containers found natively in lots of professional production cameras, and Adobe seems unable or unwilling to undo what they did to break it. I tried raising the issue but Kevin Monahan responded by trying to blame my hardware (I'm on a brand new 2019 Mac Pro, claiming Xeon processors can't handle H.264—which is completely irrelevant to these MXF files) and then locked the thread. After more than a decade with Premiere, this was the final straw for me. I'm switching to Resolve and cancelling my CC subscription. I'm editing my latest project in Resolve and it's an absolute joy. It's clearly 100x better optimized, the UI is snappier, instant playback, I don't need to render proxies. To all who are hesitant, the learning curve is friendly and adaptation from Premiere is easy. I can't believe this is what I was missing out on. Adobe has completely dropped the ball and it's time to leave. Enough waiting around for Adobe to stop polishing the turd. Ciao Adobe.
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Sep 12, 2022
10:10 AM
4 Upvotes
Can't wait to follow you over. What do you use as an After Effects replacement?
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Sep 12, 2022
09:41 AM
Yes, funny you should mention, since this post I've rolled back to 2021 and seen a lot of improvement. I am looking forward to cancelling my CC subscription and moving to Resolve. If this is the kind of result we are to expect from "updates" from Adobe, it's time to switch.
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Sep 12, 2022
09:40 AM
This entire thread is so depressing. I'm in the same boat and have been so unhappy with the minor performance boost from such an expensive new machine. The thought of having to switch to Resolve is not a fun one. But it seems it's necessary. Adobe isn't looking out for its customers. Ciao indeed.
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Sep 10, 2022
11:51 AM
I get the additional color controls. That's fine with me. Why they made "use media color space" as the default is the stupid part (and no way to change that default setting). Clearly it doesn't work as intended. When your media is spread across many folders, "select all clips and right-click" is easier said than done. Interpret Footage is greyed out if anything other than clips are selected (like a parent folder) so what you get is a maddening process of finding all clips, select all, then manually go through and de-select all the folders caught in your selection...c'mon. This ain't professional.
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