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December 7, 2022
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Embedding identical eps files create different outcomes

  • December 7, 2022
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Hello everyone, here's the situation.

I have several files that share an identical layers structure. Objects position is identical, names and numbers of the items are the same on each file. If in a file the third item is a clipping mask.. this goes for everyone.

You got my point.

The problem is: if i import these eps in a new document and i embed them i'll have these unwanted outcomes:

 

- layers and items names are lost. I searched around and apparently there's no solution for this. Is it so?

- the quantity of items is not consistent on all layers, in some occasion some items are broken down in more part then in other occasion. Or, viceversa, some objects are clipped together.

- some items become compound path while in the original file they were group or clipping mask.

 

It all seems random, i can't get why this happens.

If you want to take a look for yourself:

here are the eps files: 123456.   (they are 6mb each, if you want to download them all together click here)

 

Here's my outcome file

 

Here's a screenshot of my outcome:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can anyone give a logic explanation for this?

I'm clueless.

Thanks in advance!

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2 replies

Monika Gause
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Community Expert
December 7, 2022

Your EPS files have been created in Illustrator. Illustrator saved them with actually 2 files in them. The AI file for editing, which contains all the layers and effects and stuff. And an EPS, which has none of that. When opening your EPS in Illustrator, it opens the AI file. WHen placing it, it uses the EPS file.

Basically to get all the original layers, you have to copy/paste the content with "Remember Layers" turned on in the Layers panel.

DelrestoAuthor
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December 7, 2022

Thanks @Ton Frederiks  and @Monika Gause for the replies!

 

What Monika suggested i guess is a possible solution but i think it does't suit my situation. To explain myself i have to give more details of the workflow that involve the use of these EPS.

 

Basically, those EPS are the image-variables that i have to place in a document via the Variables Importer 8 script.

So, i have this template file with some text variables and a linked eps that works as placeholder to be replaced with all the image variables (the eps files). Once i imported all the variables i batch save them but the images will still be linked. Since i have to pass these files to someone else, i have to embed those eps so i have a script that batch open, embed and save again the files with the variables.

 

The point is i don't manually import the eps, this action is made throught the Variable Importer 8 script.

I'm using the EPS format for these reason:

- cause these files can't be raster and i need the original layers composition to work on it later.

- it seems images as variables works only if they are linked. I mean, the process is: the Variables Importer script (or even just the variables panel built in Illustrator) find the images to use as variables via the path of their location and import them. So i don't think i can use the "copy/past" solution in this process.

 

To me it's a pretty intricate situation, i hope i made myself clear despite my ignorance on the subject and the language barrier...

In light of this new information, do you think there's a solution for that?

 

Thanks, have a nice day!

Monika Gause
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Community Expert
December 7, 2022

It looks like you either copy and paste or you don't have layers.

Ton Frederiks
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Community Expert
December 7, 2022

These .eps files were saved from Illustrator?

Looks like the pdf eps part gets used when embedded.

Opening them and Copy/Paste would be better.

Edit: as Monika said, the eps part is used.