Fira Sans baseline shift between versions

Question

I was on one Adobe account and I created a style sheet and then several documents based on it, using Fira Sans downloaded from Adobe Fonts.

I then had to switch Adobe accounts. On my new account, when I opened these documents, I of course had to reinstall the fonts. This is creating an issue where the baseline shifts down on the Fira Sans Book font, which wreaks havoc with my docs if I try to make any edits:

In Find Font I see that on my new account, it's using a different version of this font:

The "created with" font is what I have on my old account. Incidentally, if I switch back to that account - same PC - there's no problem. It's appparenly still using 3.111. But on my new account, it uses 4.301 and shifts the baseline.

I've already wasted a lot of time on this issue and can't resolve it - I'm just going to have to pick an alternative to Fira Sans and revise my style sheet and ALL of my documents. This kind of issue SUCKS for this reason. Apparently it's a bug with InDesign's first baseline setting for text frames, in tandem with different versions of the same font on Adobe Fonts.

Laubender · Accepted Answer

Hi @jane-e ,the cause of this problem is something else.In short: Adobe changed the version of the font at Adobe Fonts some time ago.In the old account version 3.111 is either automatically activated or cached.In the new account version 4.301 is activated. The difference in the vertical position of the baseline could have two causes, I think:[1] A bug with InDesign that changes the position of the first baseline of a text frame when fonts with different versions but the same name are applied. ( Unlikely in this case. )[2] A new definition of the baseline in the new version of the font relative to the EM box of the font.( Very likely! ) This all is discussed in another thread here: Font shifting after changing Adobe accountsJohn25589026ghrf, Aug 09, 2022https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/font-shifting-after-changing-adobe-accounts/td-p/13125623 So I think, a forum moderator could lock this discussion here… Regards,Uwe Laubender( Adobe Community Professional )

jane-e · Answer

Hi @John25589026ghrf

Your issue appears to be that you were using a Type 1 font. All Type 1 fonts will be removed, even from current documents, no later than January 2022.

This is Adobe's announcement:

https://helpx.adobe.com/fonts/kb/postscript-type-1-fonts-end-of-support.html

Thomas Phinney wrote about this in 2005 in his blog.

https://blog.typekit.com/2005/10/06/phasing_out_typ/

Yes, you will need to rework your documents and use a typeface that is not Type 1. You should do it before the deadline.

https://creativepro.com/adobe-is-ending-support-for-type-1-fonts/

https://creativepro.com/how-to-tell-which-files-use-type-1-postscript-fonts/

Jane