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[Locked] - There will not be a Lightroom 7 perpetual offering . Are you happy about this ?

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October 18, 2017
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"Lightroom 6 is the last stand-alone version of Lightroom that can be purchased outside of a Creative Cloud membership. There will not be a Lightroom 7 perpetual offering. Lightroom 6 will remain for sale for an undetermined amount of time, but will no longer be updated with camera support or bug fixes after the end of 2017. Lightroom 6.13 with support for the Nikon D850 will be released on October 26th, 2017"

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bitm07Author

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I use the classic reversion of LR almost exclusively for RAW processing, so no other output modules is fine by me. Once the missing and new features have been added I'll switch to it full time, proving there remains an option that doesn't require the purchase of cloud storage at an additional cost (desktop storage meets my needs).

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marting94778961

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The news that Lightroom 7 will not be providing a perpetual version is very disappointing. I am retired and photography is a hobby so I cannot afford (or justify) spending £100 a year on Lightroom CC. I rarely use Photoshop but find Lightroom an excellent way of storing all my photos. I will use the Lightroom 6 perpetual version as long as I can, and then consider an alternative. This will obviously have a big impact when it comes to buying new camera equipment, and I may avoid upgrading my camera body for as long as possible; I am sure Canon will be delighted to hear this! Having spoken to my friends, who also use Lightroom, they feel the same way And will NOT be subscribing to the CC version. I can understand that CC is a good deal for professionals but I believe that many, if not most, users of Lightroom will not be prepared to pay a monthly subscription. I would suggest to Adobe that they sincerely look at their decision tO abandon the perpetual version. At least I would Suggest a two tier approach, a CC version for professionals and a version for amateurs (at a much reduced cost).

johnd62515462

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I have buy photoshop 5, dreamwaever, lightroom 1 to 6, Photoshop Elements, premier elements and plug inns for a lot of this software. Have a lot of money invested .Use Lightroom 6 frequently and i like it! Why NOT a standalone version afther 6 ? it's all about money!!! What use i have if i can use this software in the toilet i don't shit better?! This company have NO RESPECT for the older users. I don't like the cloud busnisses! Stay with the Lightroom 6 version so i have also control of my photo's! Thanks again Adobe !!!

tomazj

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Absolutely NOT happy!

I used to upgrade my software every 4-5 years. I started with PS Elements 4, followed by PS Elements/Premiere 6, Lightroom 4 (in 2012) and finally Lightroom 6 this year (which doesn't work as it should, but that's another story). I have exactly zero need for "real" Photoshop or mobile applications and have never had a need for constant upgrading. I liked Lightroom and for my use and purpose I would be happy to continue paying 150 EUR for a new version of it every couple of years or so. But asking now for 150 EUR per year from me for the same usage as before is a rip-off. Adobe obviously doesn't care for users like me anymore. So be it.

Is there any serious alternative to Lightroom, a combination of DAM and image processing software?

Abambo

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There are alternatives. You need, however, do your due diligent yourself to see if the alternatives fit your needs.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

bitm07Author

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I wouldn't be surprised if Lightroom CC classic is phased out in the not to distant future, in favour of the cloud only version (it's already taken it's name). This is worrying as the all new LR CC plan which doesn't include Photoshop is the same price as the Adobe Photography Plan, and the version that does include Photoshop is twice the price that i'm currently paying.

Abambo

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Who knows... For the moment we still have the classic version. And as long as people are using it, Adobe will keep it up to date. There may be coming a moment, when the cloud based computing will take over. For the moment this is not the case.

BTW: When I started with computing, you could rent CPU time. This has been mostly phased out because of the computing power at your desktop. It now comes back... and it has its advantages.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

bitm07Author

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Yes, the key will be how many current Classic LR users migrate over to the all new LR CC. Thankfully the new LR CC currently gives the impression of being the poor man's LR from an editing perspective, with no Tone Curve, HSL, Split Toning, Effects or Camera Calibration panel's and reduced sharpening and noise options. It is however a more than capable RAW converter, and I'm finding it's clutter free nature refreshing, and there appears to be no colour clipping when transferring images for LR to PS (which annoyed me with the classic version).

Tom_Murray_1

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I will use LR6 as long as possible then switch to whatever non-subscription software is available. I already own Affinity Photo as a future replacement for PS and will start using it when the time comes. Pixelmator Pro also looks interesting.

Edit: Pixelmator "Pro" was a disappointment as it lacks cmyk among other things. There many interesting possible replacements for LR so that will not be a problem.

Now using Affinity Photo

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David_Illig

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Happy enough. I prefer the subscription model with easy, all-but-automatic updating to buying updates. My time is also money, except more valuable.

It amuses me that people who pay monthly mortgages, rents, leases, car payments, utility bills, and whatnot balk at a software subscription.

robgendreau

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dewisant wrote
Happy enough. I prefer the subscription model with easy, all-but-automatic updating to buying updates. My time is also money, except more valuable.
It amuses me that people who pay monthly mortgages, rents, leases, car payments, utility bills, and whatnot balk at a software subscription.

Yeah, but a small minority do object for whatever reason. Some hope to save money by skipping as many upgrades as possible, and say extending Lr 4 out for years. It would be cheaper, if you didn't want Ps.

Overall, it's been a huge hit for Adobe. And I'd guess for MS as well. Most of us want it, although I'd also guess a lot of job sites already have site licenses and for them nothing much has changed over the years, except that the product has gotten cheaper and cheaper.

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getho

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The problem with the subscription model is that although it ties you to a product, if your client base gets sufficiently cheesed off they leave, and then can never go back - and they only need to get that cheesed off with one product to take the lot out.

This happened to me with microsoft this year: outlook search failed. Many many hours of tech support, and forums followed. Total waste of time. I installed emclient an found the search better than outlook. Without outlook the whole office suite was pointless: one drive is unreliable, alternatives exist for all the other office apps. Cancelled my subscription.

There are an increasing number of apps taking aim at lightroom. Resolve and fusion are ever tempting. I'm not sure if I could ever live without photoshop though.

Abambo

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getho wrote
The problem with the subscription model is that although it ties you to a product,

May I add that the ones who bought Lr or any other product have the same problem!

From Lightroom Queen's website:

What happens if I cancel my subscription?

If you cancel your subscription, Lightroom goes into a limited mode. You’re not locked out! All of your photos and the work you’ve done to them is still accessible. Only specific features stop working: the Develop module, the Map module and Lightroom Sync. (If you never completed your trial, it may go back into trial mode before reverting to limited mode.)
In the limited mode, you can still import new photos, use the Library module to organize them, use Quick Develop to do basic edits, use the Book module to create books, use the Slideshow module to create slideshows, use the Print module to print your photos, use the Web module to update your web galleries, and export your photos, just as you could before.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/end-of-perpetual-lightroom-licenses

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

robgendreau

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I am very happy with a subscription. I pay less now for these products than I ever did. And I even added an extra year, to lock in the price even further (although it won't stop me from complaining if they lower the price next year).

If you wanna look at how subscriptions look from the other side, try this: https://ulyssesapp.com/blog/2017/08/ulysses-switches-to-subscription/

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Tanja2014

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what people like you don´t get is, that in some countrys this cloud stuff is a PITA.

adobe also makes it very difficult to get offline installer, offline updates etc.

everything needs to be done online, i could not even choose a different language without being online.

the offline installer of CC 2017 (that was finally released after months) offered me no choice ... it installed the apps in the OS language.

to change the language i need to be online.... WTF.

i want to download stuff, store it and have it at hand whenever i need it.

i do not want to use a stupid cloud app for this.

and with every year it gets worse.

Abambo

Community Expert

You need to be on-line on a rather fast line to download the software. But as soon as it is downloaded, you can install "locally". I do not know how much internet traffic goes through the line, when the application phones home to check the license status, but it can't be much.

I agree, however, that when you are in the (internet) desert, that life is difficult.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Tanja2014

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adobe promised that there will always be lightroom standalone versions.... go figure.

Abambo

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Tanja2014 wrote
adobe promised that there will always be lightroom standalone versions.... go figure.

I wonder if you could show the post where they promised this? What is the definition of "standalone"?

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Tulitomaatti

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Lightroom and the Creative Cloud

Here's the original post by Adobe about "indefinitely" providing perpetual licenses. Quite sneaky, as it's not exactly the same as "infinitely", but this would be understood as at least "for a long time" in this context. One more version does not constitute for a long enough time in my opinion.

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