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December 20, 2019
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Premiere crashes when using J K L key to scrub

  • December 20, 2019
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Premiere 2020 is crashing periodically when I use JKL to scrub the timeline.  It either freezes up completely or continues playing audio while the workspace is unusable.  I get a message about a "low level exception" and "Adobe Player".

 

I migrated a feature documentary that's been in production for five years before discovering this problem.  I had to methodically go in and update audio effects that didn't translate from PP2018 to PP2020.  Now this problem crops up.

 

Also, almost everytime I try to start a queue in media encoder 2020, it crashes. 

 

Thanks for another stellar update, Adobe.  You really deserve all that money you are taking from hard working creatives.

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Participant
June 20, 2023

Solved

Apologies for resurecting an old thread, but for anyone else struggling with this go to Preferences, Media and turn off H.264/HEVC hardware accelerated playback for growing files in source monitor. 

This fixed the endless scrubbing J and L key problem for me using the latest Premiere update. 

I'm guessing you need to turn it back for the endcode, not got that far with this edit yet!

 

Known Participant
January 23, 2020

I updated to the latest PP 2020 and checked to see if the problem was still present.  It is. 

Known Participant
June 24, 2020

Very interesting that you haven't been able to fix this problem for SIX MONTHS.  I just spent a couple hours trying the latest version of PP2020(14.3) and I still get the problem.  I'm still running PP2018 so I can actually work on my feature documentary.

 

I see other people have reported this elsewhere.  So nice of the Adobe support person to treat me like I had some weird one off problem.

 

Get it together.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
June 24, 2020

First, full sympathies ... something like this is a pain no question. And yea, like most any other user, I've had problems where I couldn't use the latest version for several months due to issues myself.

 

Second ...this site is a peer-to-peer user help system, so "we" ain't engineers nor staff. So "we" can't fix anything, though we can help identify possible things, causes, relationships based on the wealth of user experiences brought to this site.

 

To file something directly to the engineers/managers, go to the UserVoice system, as that is what that site is there for. At least one engineer reads every post over there, and all posts are collated and sent up the line to the upper managers who determine budgets and such ... those people at Adobe live by metrics, and the UV posts are one of their main sources.

 

At times, we all need to rant ... and that's fine, feel free. I've certainly posted my own here and elsewhere. But if you want to try and get past this, there are other users here like me who'd be happy to help.

 

As to your particularly issue, across the hundreds of thousands of users, this is apparently a moderately rare thing. And from the few threads I've seen, has had several different causes. So you may have something that is caused by some very specific and unknown thing. Oh ... joy.

 

In order to start a typical trouble-shooting 101, one needs to start with some basic data ... OS/CPU/RAM/GPU/vRAM, the type of media involved, effects, and storage processes. Plugins or extensions or other 3rd party "touches" of the media or sequence or operating in the background that might be a possible "irritant" somehow.

 

And one begins testing and eliminating.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
R Neil Haugen
Legend
January 17, 2020

Dabler,

 

Add a link here to your posting on UserVoice ... we can all go "upvote" it.

 

I'm not having any issues but I'd be glad to pile on for it ...

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Known Participant
January 18, 2020
R Neil Haugen
Legend
January 18, 2020

Thanks ... been there, upvoted ...

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
R Neil Haugen
Legend
January 16, 2020

This is definitely happening ... but seems with a rather small subset of users compared to the rather many thousands of users. So I expect would be a pain to troubleshoot, as ... you can't troubleshoot what you can't replicate.

 

So ... please ... everyone getting this, post on their UserVoice system. It's very important if you want this fixed to do so!

 

Why? Two things ...

 

  • first, every post there is actually read by an engineer.  At Adobe MAX I got to talk with one of the engineers assigned to this task ... and his complaints were that he didn't get enough reports filed of user issues, and when they were filed, many were too short to be of use. He needs DATA ... the OS/CPU/RAM/GPU ... drivers ... media in use, effects in use, other steps done to the media or that project ... anything that could be a data-point for tracking some elusive crud down. Give him and the team data ... and that's done on the UserVoice system.
  • Every post on the UserVoice system is collated and included in the list sent to the upper managers who determine budgets. Like it or not, those folks live by metrics. Give them metrics!

 

It's the only way to push for more budgeting on fixing some of this crud.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Known Participant
January 16, 2020

Thanks R_Neil.  I've posted as you suggested.  Let's hope.

Participant
January 16, 2020

Agreed.  VERY FRUSTRATING.  Adobe forces our school to upgrade from 2018 to 2020, and now the J,K,L problem leaves us crashing all over the place.  Well done Adobe.  Perhaps it's time to dump CC and move to Davinci or FCPX.  This Adobe subscription model is TRASH !

Known Participant
January 16, 2020

I'm experiencing the same.  When I try to go to double play speed to quickly preview a section in my timeline, the playback locks and I can not stop it. I even close the project and it keeps playing.  The only solution is to force quit and restart PP.  Very frustrating. 

Joe Allam
Participant
January 12, 2020

I just want to add in here that I am also experiencing the exact same issues you are describing. Playback fails as soon as I press J/K/L when editing any of my files with the same "A low-level exception occurred: Adobe Player" error message. The application continues to "work" with other edits, however, I cannot play the timeline until force quitting and restarting.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 21, 2019

An engineer would know. But "we" here are not "Adobe" unless "we" have an employee badge. Primarily around the user-to-user forums, the staffers are Product Support ... there are several that are on the forum daily. And occassionally an engineer will pop in for some issues.

 

Kulpreet is a very useful Adobe staffer in the Product Support area. He would have better access to what specific error codes might entail.

 

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 20, 2019

"I can't be the only one experiencing this issue. "

 

Why not? I'm not, and ... I've not seen any other comments here or elsewhere. The interactions between devices on a computer, the apps loaded, and running an NLE like Premiere are rather complex. In other things I've known of that were "solved" things ranged from actual bad code in Premiere to the presence of the Microsoft OneDrive library file onedrive.dll on a system. For the latter one, only some users had troubles with the onedrive.dll file being on their system. Rename or delete that file, Premiere worked perfectly. Weird stuff happens.

 

Audio drivers, especially gaming "crud" ... those can cause all sorts of issues. For some users on certain days.

 

My assumption would be someone else has also run into this ... but why only a small group of people (relatively) is getting any one thing? That's part of the complexity. Remember, there's over 12 million people using the Adobe CC apps, one or more. I don't know how many users work in Premiere Pro daily, but it's a lot. And the variety of gear, media, working practices ... mind-boggling.

 

But again, I've seen no other post for this issue. So I'd guess it's not a large group of users. Which doesn't make it any less painful or irritating for you, and yes, I've been in the same place.

 

Neil

 

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Known Participant
December 20, 2019

So, no one at Adobe has any idea what this means??

 

Premiere low-level exception

Adobe Player Player: 11

 

 

Known Participant
December 28, 2019

I have had this same issue since I updated to PP20 weeks ago and it's infuriating. It's absolutely appalling that Adobe has yet to release an update with bug fixes for this release. 

 

I have been editing with 'Mercury Playback Engine Software Only' enabled for way too long(per the recommendation of an Adobe rep in this community). This negates the issue, BUT performance is horrendous.  

 

WHATS UP ADOBE? Is everybody on vacation? 

R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 20, 2019

Adobe does have it's "Hollywood team" that works with say studios and their massive projects. I've talked with both David Helmly and Karl Soule at NAB and MAX, and that's their beat. I know they seem to have a slightly different something or other for the "Hollywood" operations. And present this at NAB ... but I don't know how you'd get assistance for that specifically other than trying to sort how to contact one or both of them.

 

They also talk about the various differences in structuring large projects to get the best work out of Premiere, but again ... I don't recall all the differences. I know it does involve building an over-all project with numerous sub-projects under it to keep any one project file from bloating past usability.

 

They're very helpful once you get to them, for what that's worth.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Known Participant
December 20, 2019

I was able to downgrade the project to Premiere 2018 using the unsupported GZIP method.  The problem is gone now.  I can't be the only one experiencing this issue.  Adobe should reach out to me and have me beta test every new update before they release it, because there are always huge issues.  Or how about 10 other editors working feature length projects (including documentaries) with lots of different types of media.

Known Participant
December 20, 2019

Now most of my audio levels are totally wrong.  I have timeline made up of 31 scenes 1hr and 46 minutes long.  This will take a day or two of totally tedious work to fix. 

 

I want remuneration Adobe!

Known Participant
December 20, 2019

Premiere is also failing to re-create my cache files.  It will generate Peak files for a while and conform stuff, then just stop.  When I quit and re-open it will start again...sometimes...and sometimes not.

 

Great software.