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March 18, 2024
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Premiere's surround panner is terrible, is that the only panner available?

  • March 18, 2024
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I'm guessing this is a pointless question after searching the online help for panner and seeing only one result for it, but is there a way to edit 5.1 audio in Premiere that is not a complete pain? I mean, that surround panner is just awful, it can't be enlarged at all (please let me know if there is a way), and if I need to do something in a track that is not just set the panner once and forget, meaning panning a sound at different times, I have to set it to write and with the mouse move the tiny little panner more or less how I want to, and then enable the keyframe band for left and right, select each keyframe it created but the ones I want to keep, press DEL, select the next keyframe I want to delete and so on. Then I have to do the same thing for the front and rear. Oh, and if I want to do edits on the clip itself, I have to set the keyframe band to Clip keyframes. I'm exhausted after doing this for a couple of hours, can't imagine that people who use Premiere normally for 5.1 projects have to do this for the whole project.

 

So for Premiere editors that edit 5.1 projects, what do you do? Export each track separately, then import into Audition to have a decent panner? Or am I missing something here?

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 18, 2024

Richard is right. The devs don't expect that level of audio work to be done in Premiere. And as the Audtion folks are the audio team for all Adobe pro video, it's the same folks running things across the apps.

 

So do what this system is built for ... use the audio app for major audio work. It's what Is. (Neither defending nor anything, just 'splaining.)

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Known Participant
March 18, 2024

If the devs don't expect that level of audio editing in Premiere, why put it at all? Premiere is extremely buggy as it is, why add code that doesn't need to be there? Just state in the manual that if you need to do 5.1 editing, then use Audition.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 18, 2024

Sorry, but I can't follow the logic there.

 

There are a lot of different functions, processes, and effects in Premiere. If everything that is there at a moderately low level were yanked, as you seem to suggest, then ... a lot of folks who don't need full-on heavy effects ... would have nothing.

 

For example, mogrts.

 

You can build some rather decent mogrts in Premiere, but there's a ton of things you need to go to Ae to do. Or to have ways to restrict users in Premiere to certain choices.

 

Your suggestion would seem to say that they should either have everything of AfterEffects coded into Premiere ... or ... nothing.

 

So I would respectfully disagree.

 

While there are things I've wanted brought over from Audition for some time ... like the slick way to handle cross-transitions on a timeline ... I understand the general differences in the way they things work.

 

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Community Expert
March 18, 2024

Either use Audition or a VST3 plugin.

Ann Bens
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March 18, 2024