The end of hobby photography

We are being forced  to use subscription software.  Having spent many dollars to keep up with the new developments.  I am through.  I cannot believe Nikon who has kept use of the same lens mounts for decades has failed us by creating a new file format (NRW).  They have not kept their idea of continued use of prior hardware and software by this last format.  Why do I have a 20 Meg image sensor when I am forced to edit JPEG images.  I think Adobe, Microsoft, and Nikon, and others are forcing us to use subscription (rental) software and the Cloud.  I ,myself,  have no desire to purchase any new products.  I would love to sell my last purchase.  It advertised RAW files, but failed to say they are incompatible.   ..................I know, BOO HOO.

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The end of hobby photography

We are being forced  to use subscription software.  Having spent many dollars to keep up with the new developments.  I am through.  I cannot believe Nikon who has kept use of the same lens mounts for decades has failed us by creating a new file format (NRW).  They have not kept their idea of continued use of prior hardware and software by this last format.  Why do I have a 20 Meg image sensor when I am forced to edit JPEG images.  I think Adobe, Microsoft, and Nikon, and others are forcing us to use subscription (rental) software and the Cloud.  I ,myself,  have no desire to purchase any new products.  I would love to sell my last purchase.  It advertised RAW files, but failed to say they are incompatible.   ..................I know, BOO HOO.

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Re: The end of hobby photography

Adobe Community Professional, Jun 16, 2018

Yeah, it's a problem for some that companies have to pay their employees on an ongoing basis but expect those same companies to give them things for free that is produced by those companies' employees who are being paid on an ongoing basis.

Are you suggesting that other people should pay for the benefits you receive?   Professionals have to pay enough so the hobbyists don't have to?  There'd likely need to be some bureaucracy for registering as a hobbyist to prove you qualify for free software, and we'd need to pay the people who perform that licensing function.  Lightroom+Photoshop @ $10/month is half the price of just Photoshop @ $21/month because Adobe assumes more people make money from using PS as graphic designers than photographers and hobbyists do with LR+PS.  Meaning there is already a hobbyist/poor-photographer half-price discount built in.

Are you wanting a pay-enough-once scheme?  Would you pay $5,000, once, for several decades of upgrades with no additional charges?  $5,000 is about 40 years of $10/month.  I'm sure inflation would make the price more than $10/month 40 years from now, if there are even cameras that need raw processing software by that time, probably not.

Are you advocating against money and the freedom it provides, where there is just a central authority that gives everyone everything and assigns everyone their duties throughout their life.  The problem there is that unless you're a government photographer you don't get a camera and LR software because there is no freedom to do what you want.  Basically there are no hobbyists because there's no freedom.

It seems like $10/month is the MOST cost-effective way for a hobbyist to pay for software that isn't requiring others to pay for the benefit you're getting for free.

If you feel Adobe is overcharging for their software then either become an Adobe employee or buy Adobe stock because one or the other or both must be getting rich off of the hapless hobbyists paying their $10/month, right?

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Re: The end of hobby photography

Adobe Community Professional, Jun 17, 2018

Nobody is forced to use the new file formats. There's always the good old standby JPEG. You don't need special software for JPEG images. The photography industry advances just like everything else. If you don't want to follow the technology then don't. Somehow, some of us want all the improvements without any change in file format or software or cameras. We just want things to get better magically. Sorry, but it isn't going to happen. Things change, and change costs money.

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Re: The end of hobby photography

Adobe Community Professional, Jun 22, 2018

Ronatadobe  wrote

Why do I have a 20 Meg image sensor when I am forced to edit JPEG images.

This part I'm not following.

Use the free Adobe DNG converter to convert NRW to DNG then edit the DNG files (with all the benefits of Raw) in your existing software. That's why the DNG converter exists and it is regularly updated to support new file formats from new cameras including NRW.

Cameras supported by Camera Raw

Digital Negative (DNG), Adobe DNG Converter | Adobe Photoshop CC

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Re: The end of hobby photography

Thanks for your reply.  The only one with a suggestion to help.

On ‎Friday‎, ‎June‎ ‎22‎, ‎2018‎ ‎07‎:‎43‎:‎38‎ ‎PM, John Waller <forums_noreply@adobe.com> wrote:

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Ronatadobe  wrote

 

Why do I have a 20 Meg image sensor when I am forced to edit JPEG images.

This part I'm not following.

 

Use the free Adobe DNG converter to convert NRW to DNG then edit the DNG files (with all the benefits of Raw) in your existing software. That's why the DNG converter exists and it is regularly updated to support new file formats from new cameras including NRW.

Cameras supported by Camera Raw

Digital Negative (DNG), Adobe DNG Converter

Adobe Photoshop CC

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