Flex 4 and bidi input which has a mixture of Hebrew, English and punctuation

Report · Mar 31, 2009

Hi,
I am using FxTextArea to input a bidi string which has a mixture of Hebrew, English and punctuations. When I enter a Hebrew character it renders fine (the character appended to the left side of the existing string). When I enter an English character, it also renders fine (the character appended to the right). However, when I hit a space, what I am expecting to see is the entire English word gets appended to the left of existing string. Same goes for punctuations. I am expecting all the punctuations to be appended to the left of the existing string however it's been treated as English and therefore always appended to the right of existing string. Are there properties that I can specify to achieve the desired behaviour? Or is this a limitation?

Report · Apr 02, 2009

Hi Kien,

We did some testing against MS Word and we think we behave the same as it (other than a potential cursor issue we spotted). If you can file a bug with your testcase we can check with some of the other text folks to see if they think our current behavior is correct or whether we need to make it more customizable.

Matt

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Flex 4 and bidi input which has a mixture of Hebrew, English and punctuation

Hi,

I am using FxTextArea to input a bidi string which has a mixture of Hebrew, English and punctuations. When I enter a Hebrew character it renders fine (the character appended to the left side of the existing string). When I enter an English character, it also renders fine (the character appended to the right). However, when I hit a space, what I am expecting to see is the entire English word gets appended to the left of existing string. Same goes for punctuations. I am expecting all the punctuations to be appended to the left of the existing string however it's been treated as English and therefore always appended to the right of existing string. Are there properties that I can specify to achieve the desired behaviour? Or is this a limitation?

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Report · Apr 02, 2009

Actually Ella did reproduce the punctuation issue. But good to either find the bug we file and vote for it or file it yourself.

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Hi Kien,

We did some testing against MS Word and we think we behave the same as it (other than a potential cursor issue we spotted). If you can file a bug with your testcase we can check with some of the other text folks to see if they think our current behavior is correct or whether we need to make it more customizable.

Matt

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   I am using FxTextArea to input a bidi string which has a mixture of Hebrew, English and punctuations. When I enter a Hebrew character it renders fine (the character appended to the left side of the existing string). When I enter an English character, it also renders fine (the character appended to the right). However, when I hit a space, what I am expecting to see is the entire English word gets appended to the left of existing string. Same goes for punctuations. I am expecting all the punctuations to be appended to the left of the existing string however it's been treated as English and therefore always appended to the right of existing string. Are there properties that I can specify to achieve the desired behaviour? Or is this a limitation?

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Report · Apr 02, 2009

OK, you get lots of messages because I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to this stuff. Try setting the direction style of the TextArea to "rtl" and see if the behavior does what you want.

Matt

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Actually Ella did reproduce the punctuation issue. But good to either find the bug we file and vote for it or file it yourself.

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Hi Kien,

We did some testing against MS Word and we think we behave the same as it (other than a potential cursor issue we spotted). If you can file a bug with your testcase we can check with some of the other text folks to see if they think our current behavior is correct or whether we need to make it more customizable.

Matt

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  Flex 4 and bidi input which has a mixture of Hebrew, English and punctuation

Hi,

   I am using FxTextArea to input a bidi string which has a mixture of Hebrew, English and punctuations. When I enter a Hebrew character it renders fine (the character appended to the left side of the existing string). When I enter an English character, it also renders fine (the character appended to the right). However, when I hit a space, what I am expecting to see is the entire English word gets appended to the left of existing string. Same goes for punctuations. I am expecting all the punctuations to be appended to the left of the existing string however it's been treated as English and therefore always appended to the right of existing string. Are there properties that I can specify to achieve the desired behaviour? Or is this a limitation?

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Report · Apr 17, 2009

Hebrew fonts have no Hebrew punctuation! This sucks, as for example Arabic fonts do have their own punctuation signs. But for Hebrew there is no way to know whether you wanted to put Latin coma or Hebrew coma - it will always be Lating coma as Hebrew simply doesn't have even a registered char code for it!

So, deal with it, there cannot be an ultimate fix to this issue, unless Unicode char-table changes or people would stop using this language (I'm Israeli, so, guess, I'm allowed to say that).