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Print question - Using pantone colours alongside jpegs

New Here ,
Aug 01, 2018 Aug 01, 2018

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I'm putting together a packaging job for a food production company. A design has been made within Illustrator using only vector shapes and pantone solid coat colours - all good so far.

The client now wants to add real-world imagery of food within the design. My question is about how we would incorporate raster imagery in a way that would print correctly?

I've included an example below. Both the orange and brown elements are pantone/vectors. The chocolate and nuts are jpegs with a multiply effect with a white custom-shape layered below. My understanding is that using any kind of transparency effect (such as multiply) is a no-no. How would these need to be incorporated for them to print correctly? I'm particularly concerned about the shadows underneath each of the ingredients.

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Any help would be appreciated - Thanks

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Community Expert , Aug 05, 2018 Aug 05, 2018

Use Acrobat Pro and Overprint preview to view correctly. As said before contact the printer. Normally you will get better shadows if they are not done in photoshop since Photoshop files only export with alpha transparency (as do PNG). If it is for packaging design, contact your printer service provider, and talk to them how best to collaborate. If it will be printed flexographically there may be other restrictions that apply. Also food packaging has many legal aspects to take into consideration.

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Aug 02, 2018 Aug 02, 2018

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You probably need to coordinate with the printer. Can they even do such a job (with multiple pantone inks plus presumably CMYK)? Do they want it as CMYK or RGB? What colour space? What resolution? What deliverable? And yes, don't use translucency between process and spot colours but you can still use clipping paths or full masks.

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Aug 02, 2018 Aug 02, 2018

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Thanks for the advice, I'll get confirmation from the printer on those specifications, hopefully that'll clear it up!

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Aug 03, 2018 Aug 03, 2018

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Multiply will create a calculated colour mix that is no more Pantone.

If you need to stay with Pantone, because your customer is really crazy about that you would need to cut out the product picture without shadow and then overprint the product picture with the shadow. The background in the product picture (with shadow) needs to be white.

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Use Acrobat Pro and Overprint preview to view correctly. As said before contact the printer. Normally you will get better shadows if they are not done in photoshop since Photoshop files only export with alpha transparency (as do PNG). If it is for packaging design, contact your printer service provider, and talk to them how best to collaborate. If it will be printed flexographically there may be other restrictions that apply. Also food packaging has many legal aspects to take into consideration.

In layout applications such as Illustrator and InDesign you can also view the separations during the design process to see what is printed in each film.

Note that blending modes and transparency can sometimes cause spot colours to be converted into CMYK.

One way to get around this is to put the spot colour above the image and use the overprint attribute. You can then make a hole in the spot colour as a clipping mask (or opacity mask) to reveal the image.

Again I will repeat best to contact the next line in production and double check how they want the files from you. If they use a PDF standard (or have a Settings file) or have a preflight profile that you can use to check your file before handing over.

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How many colours in the job? Will the photography be CMYK, or will the standard process channels be swapped out for one or more spot colours?

My take on this is that it is an authoring program question and not Acrobat. One solution is to combine the raster image data over the spot colour in Photoshop using a raster spot colour a channel for the solid Pantone panel that is currently vector.

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