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How does the "Sender" role work with the "I need to sign: Last" option?

New Here ,
Sep 10, 2015 Sep 10, 2015

I have created a form in Adobe Acrobat DC that requires three electronic signatures in explicit order to complete:

  1. The salesperson, who prepares the form by filling in the initial details for the order
  2. The customer, who fills in additional contact details and confirms the correct order details, and their agreement to the terms and conditions
  3. The head of sales, who will have originally sent the document for signatures through the Adobe DC eSign Services, and signs to approve the order

After some trial and error, I figured out that the conversion from a Acrobat DC form to a DC eSign form template discards the Acrobat DC "Signer" role, and have found that the following roles translate without requiring me to manually reassign any field roles:

SignerAdobe Acrobat DCAdobe DC eSign Services
salespersonSigner 1Participant 1
customerSigner 2Participant 2
head of salesSenderSender

The head of sales dispatches the form from the DC eSign website, selecting that Recipients sign in Order Entered option and entering the salesperson's email address followed by the customer's. The head of sales additionally checks I need to sign and specifies that they will be signing Last. For as far as my intuition and research into the documentation extends, it seems to me like everything should function properly at this point. However, when the form reaches the salesperson, it always assigns the Participant 1 role to the Sender fields, the result of which being that the salesperson is asked to sign for both themselves as well as the head of sales at this point. When the document finally reaches the Sender, head of sales, for signing, they are asked to do so in an automatically generated signature field tacked onto the bottom of the form.

One page of the documentation states that the Participant 1 role will be assigned to Sender fields if the sender specifies that they need to sign First - which leads me to believe it should be interpreted as it's own unique participant role associated with the person dispatching the document when I need to sign Last is specified. This answer suggests using the last role for this purpose - however no such role exists, though the implication may be to use the Participant N role, where N is total count of participants.

So I have a couple questions, here:

  1. What is the intended purpose of the Sender role?
  2. Should I be assigning the Participant 3 role to fields that the sender will fill in last, instead?
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Adobe Employee , Sep 12, 2015 Sep 12, 2015

Hello Adamb90074111,

As per my recommendation, I would insist on using Participant role while creating template in EchoSign. So, the sender role would become Participant 1 ( if sender signs first) or Participant 'N' if he signs last.

Regards,

-Rijul

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Adobe Employee ,
Sep 12, 2015 Sep 12, 2015
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Hello Adamb90074111,

As per my recommendation, I would insist on using Participant role while creating template in EchoSign. So, the sender role would become Participant 1 ( if sender signs first) or Participant 'N' if he signs last.

Regards,

-Rijul

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