P: Firefly Model 4 quality concerns

[lorethespore]

Why should we pay for a tool that's getting worse and worse?
I use Firefly mainly to generate effects on images I upload (for composition) and by using reference images (also uploaded by me) for the style. Until yesterday, everything was fine, but now suddenly Firefly 3 no longer follows the lines of the reference image for the composition. Let alone Firefly 4, which just does its own thing entirely, ignoring the reference images altogether. I'm speechless.

[ndrodrigues]

For me, it's generating totally irrelevant images... 😞

[pleasure_9869]

the new firedly image 4 is generating images irrelevent to the script without counting the credit,i got 4 diffrent images generated for one prompt

[imarielmermaid]

They must've just updated it and now my results are horrible and have more errors. why change whats working perfectly fine. the first image is how it used to be.

[candy_9435]

It is getting worse by the day. Guess the trainig data is corrupted by its own AI slop. It doesn't understand detailed or simple prompts and isn't able to create text without errors. At least Firefly 3 was hallucinating and interesting as a starting point, Version 4 is boring and stupid. For a company with a 5 billion profit this is disappointing.

[Kartika Rawat]

I'm sorry to hear that your recent experience with Firefly has been frustrating. Please share some prompts and the generated images with us. We’d love to look into those.

Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

KR

[Sophie23855386uyfl]

Absolutely agree! The new Version 4 is completely useless, and the old version has been ruined! Please bring back the old version — it was a game changer! These versions would not have been acceptable even a year ago. Style reference images have no meaning any longer. The composition either follows the given sample rigidly or does not follow it at all! Please discard this version!

[candy_9435]

Black and white, drawing, a woman works in a vineyard and removes weeds with a hoe, sunny, afternoon. This is the funniest result, but I got not a single good one. 

Her pose, the two wooden sticks, her hat, no right foot, disconnected arm. And even without all these errors it's just bad. Other attempts went just as well.

[edwardr12619976]

Dear Firefly,

Sometimes I enter prompt that Firefly does not want to render (Version 4) and the app will give me a nonsense image totally unrelated to the prompt that I typed instead of telling me that the prompt is objectionable. This is not good. I need to be told that there is a problem with the prompt so I can change it, instead of going ahead and rendering something that I don't need and using up one of my valuable credits.

Thank you

[Hurtt412]

Hi Adobe Team,

I’ve been using Firefly with high hopes, but honestly, the AI generations have been really disappointing. Most results don’t match the prompts, feel low quality, and just aren’t usable, even after multiple tries. For a paid service, it feels like I’m being ripped off.

I expected better from Adobe, and I’m hoping you’ll take this feedback seriously. Right now, Firefly just isn’t living up to the hype.

Thanks

[Khenn2699854166rv]

Hi, i totally agree with you. After the update the images are kinda off and not that good anymore. I have no clue what happened

[edwardr12619976]

Sometimes I enter prompt that Firefly does not want to render (Version 4) and the app will give me a nonsense image totally unrelated to the prompt that I typed instead of telling me that the prompt is objectionable. This shoulders be fixed. I need to be told that there is a problem with the prompt so I can change it, instead of Firefly going ahead and rendering something that I don't need and using up one of my valuable credits.

[Amplify_Connective5147]

corporate language with zero actual good will again and again and again. isnt the problem obvious? you introducte a tool, it works perfectly fine, then you introduce another version of it, and probably try to kill firefly 3 on purpose to encourage firefly 4 ultra subscriptions. damn adobe. 

[Amplify_Connective5147]

here is a funny thing. old firefly could turn this drawing into a magnificent 3d looking realistic materpiece. now, what is this? this is just beyond terrible. explain @adobe 

[Amplify_Connective5147]

This is my first ever post on this community, and it is out of extreme frustration. Adobe just killed firefly, same as how openai repeatedly kills GPTs.

It's funny how Firefly 3 was way better than Firefly 4, and now both models are malfunctioning. below is an example of a creation by Firefly. First my raw sketch on illustrator, then Firefly generation:









I have been using this technique of making raw sketches on illustrator, than using compostion reference and playing with the prompt and settings a bit. Now all of a sudden, Firefly is giving me this? I just can't understand. 

and just like how GPTs are getting worse, and how they introduce 200 dollar subscription fees for the "most advanced" model, I am afraid Adobe will do the same stuff. 

This was done ON PURPOSE. 

[Kartika Rawat]

Hi Amplify_Connective5147!

Sorry about the frustration. I'm merging your thread here since it’s part of a similar discussion.

Thanks,
KR

[lorethespore]

Thank you @Kartika Rawat , I truly hope that the contributions from the users who are commenting will help bring attention to an issue that needs to be addressed in order to make Firefly a competitive product.

[laurentw76079209]

Exactly one year ago, I uploaded a simple flat icon logo as a reference image—and with just a short prompt, I could generate stunning, imaginative interpretations of that logo in incredible scenes.

Have a look: the original reference image, and the results speak for themselves.

Fast-forward to today: trying the same process with the latest version of Firefly, and… it no longer works. I only get the logo outline awkwardly slapped on top of an image.

So—what changed? Is anyone else experiencing this? And more importantly, does anyone know how to bring back that magic?

It used to be such a brilliant feature—transforming any logo into a true piece of visual storytelling.

Thanks in advance!

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[Mohamed39016504itoe]

Hello Is there a way to enable old models like V2 or even V1 ? to get it to work like the old days please. I need it for work 

[Lionfishing]

I just tried Firefly 4 for the first time. How is Adobe 4 versions into this AI engine and still unable to generate usable content with clean, simple prompts that every other image generator accomplishes decent results with? Whatever team is behind this needs a shakeup. You are now charging "credits" (bhahaha, still not "enforcing" because NO ONE WOULD BUY THEM) for the act of generating worthless, bothced images that would take significant time to correct and adjust. It's unusable. Monetizing garbage does not make it worth anything.

[hugo_8624]

I've had no visibility on measures being taken to fix this issue and I reported the problem over a week ago 😕

I'm paying for this tool...

I really hope this gets fixed asap

[Kartika Rawat]

Thanks for your patience. We shared the feedback with the engineers.

KR

[nmycps]

Yes, even this 4th version of FF still has shortcomings, such as it's high sensitivity to prompts unrelated to anything innaproporiate or that could be grounds for censorship, which has been an issue over the past. Also we are seeing identical images being generated after pressing the 'generate' button. Further, distorted faces and hands, extra limbs are still frequent occurences, so there's a degree of this noise which is cutting into one's allowed monthly generative credits.
The one issue that has been given attention and has improved is the regional bias when generating images from a particular region of the world. 

[hugo_8624]

I'm unfortunately going to unsubscribe to this tool. I'm sure you can understand that there is no point of paying for this if the tool isnt functioning.

However, it would be greatly appreciated if you could tag me when the problem is rectified. Until then, with a heavy heart, I'm gonna look at other options (I'm open to suggestions).