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P: Regional bias in images

New Here ,
Mar 14, 2024 Mar 14, 2024

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Muestra todas las imágenes con un notorio sesgo regional. En mi país no todos viven en el campo y todas las imágenes me las muestra como si estuvieran en el campo. Si especifico que salga en la ciudad, ignora mi directiva y sigue poniendo escenarios en el campo. Dejen de esteriotipar.

Otro ejemplo, cuando pongo teatro lleno, sigue mostrando un teatro en los andes o campo y vacío. Pongo teatro cerrado y lo hace abierto y adivinen que... en el campo a pesar que le pongo en la ciudad.

 

Pago por este servicio. Exijo que al menos funcione bien 

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 26, 2024 Apr 26, 2024

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Hi, We are sorry for the inconvenience. Kindly send me the link to the images causing the issue via DM, or share screenshots of those images along with the prompts used to generate them. This will help us investigate the problem more effectively.


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Community Expert ,
Apr 26, 2024 Apr 26, 2024

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@gino349578368ax4, I must have missed this message when you first posted it. This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Union Jack appearing in images 

Images including people are severely culturally out of touch 

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

  • Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)
  • Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations
  • Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for. You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.

 

This can be overridden by specifying regions/cultures/races in the prompt.

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New Here ,
Aug 31, 2024 Aug 31, 2024

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I live in Turkey not in United Arab Emirates. I always saw images as i add here althought I write european people too. If i need arabic people I can write it. Turkey is not a country like that. Please fix that issue. It is not proper for our community. We are like european not like arabic. These arts or pictures not useable for us. Thank you for your attention.

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New Here ,
Mar 22, 2024 Mar 22, 2024

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Al usar Adobe firefly, por más que pongo un prompt detallados con lo que estoy buscando, todas las imagenes que aparecen son de mujeres, hombres o chicos con trajes originarios o estética peruana antigua.
Pasa hasta cuando pongo imagenes referentes, firefly hace esto, no respetando los prompts.
NO deberían poner esas cualidades automáticamente en las búsquedas de imagenes, por más que esté en esa región. Ya que mis trabajos o mis búsquedas muchas veces no son para este mercado, y si lo fueran es una vista muy naif de Perú.
Como usuario de AI estoy completamente decepcionado,  y hacen que esta herramienta sea obsoleta, irrita y vuelve tedioso su uso. Espero una respuesta rápida de parte de su equipo.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 22, 2024 Mar 22, 2024

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This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Union Jack appearing in images 

Images including people are severely culturally out of touch 

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

  • Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)
  • Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations
  • Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for. You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.

 

This can be overridden by specifying regions/cultures/races in the prompt.

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Explorer ,
Mar 08, 2024 Mar 08, 2024

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Hi Everyone


I live in Switzerland and love using Firefly, but it keeps making everything Swiss! Every person is wearing traditional Swiss outfits making them look like they are up every morning at 5 a.m. to yodle in the mountains, which are always featured in the backgrounds. I live in the city and nobody dresses like this in the entire country except a poor few souls on national day. Gahhh! Even though it's a tiny bit hilarious that I was trying to generate photos of stand-up comedians and they were dressed like cowherds (see attachment). Is there any way to deactivate this feature?

 

Thanks!

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Community Expert ,
Mar 08, 2024 Mar 08, 2024

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This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Union Jack appearing in images 

Images including people are severely culturally out of touch 

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

  • Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)
  • Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations
  • Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for. You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.

 

This can be overridden by specifying regions/cultures/races in the prompt.

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Explorer ,
Mar 08, 2024 Mar 08, 2024

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Hi There


Thank you for taking the time to respond, and thanks for the links, I was trying to search for this with keywords like "national" but didn't get anywhere. Okay, so there's no real way to turn it off. It's really persistant, it takes a lot of creative prompting to get past the stereotypes (and I mean, making it regional is one thing, but this is a Switzerland that only exists in picture books). Even when I try to place people in a corporate environment, there are the Alps peaking in through the windows. I guess we it's early days though, and like I said, in one way it's rather amusing.

 

Have a nice weekend!

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Community Expert ,
Mar 09, 2024 Mar 09, 2024

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It does seem that Firefly has gone too far with regard to localization. It would be nice to be able to specify a "generic modern city" for instance.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer

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New Here ,
Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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It's supposed to be easier than that, they shouldn't overcomplicate things.

Instead of making people look the same, or based on location. They can just make it based on location but if we say "I want a white couple holding hands", they shouldn't return a asian couple dressed in japanese kimonos with the mount Fuji behind, just because I'm in Japan. Now days people need to have this freedom. It's like some websites that doesn't offer language selection just because they assume everyone in Japan speak and read Japanese. It's just bad UX.

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Apr 24, 2024 Apr 24, 2024

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No matter what prompt I put in, I get Asian designs and faces. If I ask for a wooden boat, it's an Asian wooden boat. If I ask for a man, it's an Asian man - even if I ask for a white man. Please fix to add promots as to specific ethnicities. these are important for specific projects and I feel like I'm wasting my monthly credits on results I can't use.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 24, 2024 Apr 24, 2024

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@mwdean: This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Union Jack appearing in images 

Images including people are severely culturally out of touch 

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

  • Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)
  • Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations
  • Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for. You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.

 

This can be overridden by specifying regions/cultures/races in the prompt.

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New Here ,
Apr 03, 2024 Apr 03, 2024

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All the people that are appearing look like indigenous people, I guess because I live in guatemala. I want to generate images of other races and looks and it does not matter what race I specify in the prompt, it always generates the same type. 

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Community Expert ,
Apr 03, 2024 Apr 03, 2024

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Thank you for your comments. This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Union Jack appearing in images 

Images including people are severely culturally out of touch 

 

In your case, the model is trying to influence the creation of images based on where it thinks you are.

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

  • Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)
  • Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations
  • Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for. You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.

 

This can be overridden by specifying regions/cultures/races in the prompt.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 16, 2024 Apr 16, 2024

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If you specify a person in the prompt, all buildings, scenery, and clothes will be Asian. There are almost no other options. There should be things from various countries and cultures.

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Apr 16, 2024 Apr 16, 2024

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@nekousagi, Thank you for your feedback. This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Union Jack appearing in images 

Images including people are severely culturally out of touch 

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

  • Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)
  • Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations
  • Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for. You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.

 

This can be overridden by specifying regions/cultures/races in the prompt.

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New Here ,
Apr 23, 2024 Apr 23, 2024

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사람 등 인물을 생성 시 결과로 생성되는 인종이 고정 되어 있습니다. 이것은 심각한 문제 입니다.  특정 인종을 특정하는 심각한 차별에 해당 할 수 있습니다.

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Apr 23, 2024 Apr 23, 2024

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@종대27926835skl4: This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Union Jack appearing in images 

Images including people are severely culturally out of touch 

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

  • Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)
  • Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations
  • Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for. You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.

 

This can be overridden by specifying regions/cultures/races in the prompt.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 06, 2024 Jul 06, 2024

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I'm in Japan so when I make images, they end up being in Edo style clothes (historical). Can you make it so I can choose which country the image will be in. So if I choose Africa, it would be African style (another choice for modern or old) and more importantly, if I want America or English style, it shows English style images. Japan is a homogenous country so it makes sense most people are Japanese in the picture but no one wears Kimonos in their daily life. Also, if it's american style, I would expect it to be more multi cultural etc.
I waste many credits trying to stop it giving me ancient Japanese style people.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 07, 2024 Jul 07, 2024

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Hello @nickstery,

Thank you for your message. I am sorry you are having this problem.

 

This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)

Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations

Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for, and as you observe can seem to be taking historical cultural themes to an extreme.

 

You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. Sometimes you need to be very descriptive of the people and what they are wearing to override it. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.


Thanks,
    droopy

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Aug 27, 2024 Aug 27, 2024

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I was experiementing with ADobe Firefly. I wrote in prompt: back to school for a teacher in Israel. 
The images were mostly Muslim country.
Then I corrected: back to school for a teacher in Tel Aviv. - Same thing.
Then again I corrected: back to school for an Israeli teacher in classroom.
There were images of muslim teacher and black board in Arabic.
I corrected: back to school for an Israeli teacher in classroom in Hebrew.
All were in Arabic!!!
I felt that this is programmed mostly towards muslim population. Most of the population in Isarel is not Muslim!!!  It is not the identidy of major Israel.

I even wrote a prompt: a back to school teacher with an Israeli flag,  It's better. It is shown with Isareli flag, but one of them you can see a mosque in the background. It's not Jewish.

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Aug 28, 2024 Aug 28, 2024

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Hello @Dalit302989170jev,

Thank you for your message. I am sorry you are having this problem. 

This issue has been discussed in these threads:

 

Adobe basically had three choices:

  • Make everyone look the same (so unlike a large percentage of the user base)
  • Have every image have a diversity of people who appear to be from many locations
  • Create people who appear to be closest to the region/location where the user is

 

The decision Adobe made is to try to make results appear more culturally relevant based on where the user is located. There are advantages and disadvantages of doing that, and in some cases, the results can be far from what you are looking for. You can change your prompts to be more descriptive of the people and objects to override that region/culture behaviour. It would be nice for Adobe to allow this to be disabled or overridden with another location/region or completely diverse subjects.

 

The best advice is that this can be overridden by specifying regions/cultures/races in the prompt, which is the direction you have been going.


My best,
    droopy

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I am writing to share my feedback and concern regarding the image generation results from Adobe Firefly. While I appreciate the incredible technology behind the tool, I have noticed a recurring issue: many of the generated images, regardless of the input prompt, disproportionately feature individuals or aesthetics associated with Chinese culture or ethnicity.

While I understand that diverse cultural representation is important, this bias can be limiting and does not always align with the global or multicultural vision users might have when creating content. As a user, I would love to see Firefly produce more balanced results that better reflect a variety of ethnicities, cultures, and artistic styles based on the prompts provided.

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