Media Encoder compression

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Nov 15, 2017 Nov 15, 2017

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Hi,

Can anyone comprehensively explain the difference between handbrake and Adobe Media Converter? Example: I have a simple slideshow consitig of 15 images and 14 transitions (onle fades) at 1080p, 5 min, 25 fps with a file size of appr. 250 MB. I want to convert that to something that still looks good on a HD TV and get the files size down.

Adobe Media Converter creates a appr. 500 MB file in 1080p no matter what I try. Used H.264, set the target fps to 2 MBit/s (max. fps 20 MBit/s), tried many different settings, but always end up with double the file size I started with.

Handbrake on the other hand compressed the file with H.264 down to 45 MB without any big loss in quality.

Am I not using Medie Converter right, or is there something else I miss?

Thanks!

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Moved to AME forum.

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Sorry, did not find that. Thank you.

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Not sure I understand what you are doing/asking -

conte0815  wrote

Example: I have a simple slideshow consitig of 15 images and 14 transitions (onle fades) at 1080p, 5 min, 25 fps with a file size of appr. 250 MB.

How do you know that is the file size?

I want to convert that to something that still looks good on a HD TV and get the files size down.

Why do you need a small file size?

Adobe Media Converter creates a appr. 500 MB file in 1080p no matter what I try. Used H.264, set the target fps to 2 MBit/s (max. fps 20 MBit/s), tried many different settings, but always end up with double the file size I started with.

The fps and the bit rate are two independent specifications.  What are you attempting to adjust? If you set the Max. bit rate to 20Mb/s, then 5 minutes of source will turning out around 500MB sounds about right.

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Thanks for your quick answer!

How do you know that is the file size?

I export a simple slideshow from Apples Photo App on OSX (why? simple and quick solution to create a slideshow video) resulting in an m4v-file with 250 MB file size.

Why do you need a small file size?

I have to send that video to a client who want's to play it on 5 screens at a convention tomorrow (TV sets with 1080p resolution). I don't know the brand or any other specifications and am not 100% sure they can use m4v-files. And just for them handling the files, trying to offer the best service to them, I try to send them smaller files (e.g. they need to copy that to 5 USB sticks or whatever).

The fps and the bit rate are two independent specifications.  What are you attempting to adjust? If you set the Max. bit rate to 20Mb/s, then 5 minutes of source will turning out around 500MB sounds about right.

Thank you for this information. That's what I was wondering about: Handbrake does have settings like "variable frame rate", Media Encoder only let's me choose the target frame rate. I think what you are saying is, that it does not matter if I set the target frame rate low, as long as I have don't change the max frame rage, because I will still end up with a larger file. So I should set the max frame lower aswell I guess.

Still wondering why a conversion in Handbrake is 44 MB and in Media Encoder 500 MB and no easy setting to adjust that.

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