BUG. Selecting next layer up (Ctrl+UpArrow) DOES NOT UPDATE INFO PANEL

[tristansummers]

Current behaviour:

Manual selection with Mouse = displays layer Info in the Info Panel

(This is very cool)

Switching to the next layer above or below with a keyboard shortcut = Does not Update Info Panel.

Expected Behaviour:

When a layer is selected the Info panel always shows its information.

Why this matters:

Cycling through layers using keyboard shortcut and the info being displayed in the Info panel is a fast way of assessing and choosing layers, especially if they do not have meaningful names

Thanks

Tris

(P.S. when will keyboard shortcut moveing the timeline to Layer In and Out properly update the timeline marker? This has been a bug for a decade!)

When are you going to stop forcing me to tag and remove the title character limit!?

[tristansummers]

Latest version, latest OS, cross platform, latest drivers. 

[nishu_kush]

Thanks for reaching out, tristansummers.

Could you provide your system specifications (CPU, GPU, RAM, OS version)? I am able to reproduce the issue on my end. Thanks for reporting. I've filed a bug for investigation.

Thanks,
Nishu

[nishu_kush]

Changing the thread status to Investigating.

Best,

Nishu

[tristansummers]

Thanks. Another little quirk the devs missed.

If system specs were relevant, I woould have included them. I work freelance on many different machines, AMD, Intel, Apple, Nvidia etc. Most places keep their Adobe products up to date. I would always update OS, Adobe, Drivers etc. before reaching out. I don't think system specs would effect a UI bug

[David.Arbor]

Hi @tristansummers, Thank you for reporting the issue. I was easily able to repro it and will file a bug on our side. So while you are correct in this case that a driver or OS update are not causing this bug, that's not always the case. The challenge of troubleshooting is that we need as much information as possible from you to help us repro the issue.

GPU drivers can absolutely cause issues that are OS or platform-specific, and macOS vs Win can absolutely experience different UI issues, so please don't assume the info isn't important. Also, specifically right now, the latest macOS update could technically either be Tahoe or Sequoia. I bet you most people don't know that Tahoe just came out two days before you posted. 

As an in-house motion designer where I didn't work with other folks, I always kept up-to-date with my CC versions, but you might be surprised how many studios and organizations are one, two, or three major versions behind due to policies. A lot of people might still be on AE 2024 and have the latest version of that but not realize there's another major update. We don't know the state of anyone's setup, which is why we need to ask.

So we're not trying to kick the can down the court, we're trying to help you.

As for your other question about the In/Out KB shortcuts, can you please be more specific? What do you mean by "the Timeline marker?" Please be specific about which shortcut you're talking about—is it I/O to move to a layeer's in or out point, the bracket keys to move the start of the layer's in/out, or Opt+bracket keys to trim the in/out of a layer. A screen recording showing the issue would be great because I'm seeing expected behavior with all three of those shortcut sets.

Edit: I see that @nishu_kush already filed a bug. I added some notes to it.

Thanks,
- David, After Effects Engineering Team

[tristansummers]

Hello.Thanks. fully understand. I try not to use macs where possible. And I appreciatye having to stick to stable release, which is why I was instrumental in Adobe not immediately removing access to previous versions when you update!

When pressing I to go to layer Inpoint, (or O to go to Layer outpoint), often, but not always, the vertical line that extends from the Timeline Marker disappears. 

Toggling I and O to move to the end and back, makes it visible.

This has been a known bug for at eleast ten years, but it never used to come back at all.

What is interesting about both these behaviours is that communication triggers for the UI differ based on mouse or Keyboard navigation, rather than the final state.

[David.Arbor]

I see what you're saying. The Current Time Indicator (CTI) moves to the layer start/end point, but the Time Needle doesn't. I have seen this myself before, but haven't been able to consistently reproduce it. Without a clear repro case, it's very difficult to figure out what's going on.

Thanks,
- David, After Effects Engineering Team