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Having Weird MOGRT Glitches/Missing Sources?

Community Beginner ,
Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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Good afternoon,

 

I am currently using Adobe After Effects 2022 and have been trying to make some MOGRT templates for work.

 

However, two of my templates have had some weird source resources missing in them when in Adobe Premiere Pro (the software planned to be used to send the content to a Tricaster).

 

They are specifically with layers imported from Photoshop, but only with two of the renderings.

 

In After Effects for example, it will show up like this:

 

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But in Premiere, they come out like this:

 

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For reference, all the files are being saved to the same USB stick so I can use them on my other PC for the broadcasts.

 

What is causing this?

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Community Expert ,
Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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For the sake of exploration, are you running into this same issue when you keep them on the same machine? When exporting to a CC Library? I'd try some of those variables and see if it makes any difference.

 

Does the Photoshop file have nested Smart Objects, or anything along those lines? If so, and if the above doesn't work, it might be worth exploring if rasterizing those layers makes a difference.

 

Clearly something along the line is losing its link, so I think narrowing down the variables of where that could be happening would be my first step. 

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Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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Yes, the issue is popping up on the same PC and on different ones. I'm exporting to a folder I made on the USB to store the MOGRTs in one place.

 

The Photoshop files do not have smart objects for the areas causing problems.

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Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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Just confirmed, saving to local libraries does not help.

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Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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If you're able to share, I'm happy to take a look to see if I can sleuth anything out. 

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Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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Sent you a DM.

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LEGEND ,
Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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Start by making sure you actualkly have the correct same versions on every system, including updates. That also applies for Photoshop, as some shared libraries not being up to the same level could be causing issues. Otherwise the usual culprits come to mind: Failing hardware acceleration, botched caches, changed file paths plus what Kyle already hinted at.

 

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Jul 15, 2022 Jul 15, 2022

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I will re-check to see if there is an update issue on my laptop. I did notice some of the newer effects were not there on the laptop (the newer CC effects) for Premiere.

 

It is doing the same thing on my main PC, as well, however.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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To add to this, I have a new variant of this issue; some layers working and others failing to sync for the Essential Graphics:

 

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The colour boxes that did show up are from a Photoshop layer. However, the road logo, which also came from the Photoshop file, did not work. The outlines for some boxes imported properly, but others did not.

 

It is getting pretty confusing because some other Photoshop files, some with even more listings (including full colour swaps) worked seamlessly between After Effects and Premiere Pro, but not this (which includes just three text boxes).

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Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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I should clarify the road boxes and road logo are in the same composition.

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Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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I had OP send me some project files, and am also running into strange issues with the projects. From what I can tell, something is happening with the collection, where the media files are included, but perhaps the actual project file itself is corrupted or not being translated properly. This being the case, I can see how that same issue would be present in the exported MOGRT files, since that's effectively the same thing under the hood. 

OP, as suggested in my private communitcations, I would start by seeing if you can simplify your folder structure to shorten the file paths somewhat, just to eliminate that as a variable. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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Trying that now.

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Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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Tried moving the files a few folders forward in my file path. No change.

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Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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Only fix I have found so far is saving the layers as PNGs.

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Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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Individually from After Effects, or from your original Photoshop file? If it's the latter, I think we've identified the source of the problem.

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Jul 18, 2022 Jul 18, 2022

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From the original Photoshop file, then importing them into After Effects.

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Jul 19, 2022 Jul 19, 2022

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Please file a Bug Report and include your solution. Thanks.

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Jul 19, 2022 Jul 19, 2022

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I haven't been able to diagnose too much from my end, as I can't get the AE project file to open correctly. 

 

On my system, I'm running into several instances of each of these errors:

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and finally:

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Once the project opens, it's clearly missing a lot of content. Like, the media links exist, but layers that should exist are pretty clearly not there on my system. 


@JPJournalism - idea: Create a brand new AE project, and import one of these existing projects into it. 
Do a Collect and then re-send that to me (or post here). Let's see if that's any healthier. 

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