Request: Improve AE<>PP integration – Currently cumbersome workflow

[KlausKi]

Current Situation

Currently, the interaction between After Effects and Premiere Pro seems rather rudimentary and coarse:

• AE compositions containing animated text are imported into PP as pixel graphics, not vector graphics. So, upscaling them in PP renders them ragged.
• It's not possible to import PP sequences into AE for adding visual finishing touches to the sequence. You need to render them first in PP and import the rendered footage then into AE.
  By rendering, artifacts are added to the material as the rendered result is saved using a lossy compression format.
  Moreover, it's currently wasting a lot of valuable working time for rendering a PP sequence first for the result to be rendered in AE again.

Desired Situation

Why are AE and PP two separate programs at all? Why the back and forth? In a collaborative environment, every member of a PP project may focus on their distinct tasks within PP.

So, this is my feature request: Just add AE effects and effect expressions to PP and drop AE.

[arkayny]

Not sure Im reading this right but I think the feature already exists.   You can take any footage Rt Click and replace with After Effects Comp.  
Additionally if you want to stay in Premiere, you can create Motion Graphics Templates in After Effects and create a user interface to edit and refine in Premiere Pro in the Essential Graphics panel.  

[KlausKi]

Yes, you are right. The other way around is the issue here. You are not able to import a Premiere Pro sequence into After Effects for further editing and refinement.

Plus, the programs don't actually interact with their data. As I wrote above, after importing an AE composition into Premiere Pro a composition's text layer isn't seemlessly scalable from within Premiere Pro.

[RobShultz]

Premiere doesn't have a continuously rasterize like AE has. Are the sequence in Premiere and the composition in AE the same size? If not you may want to try that. Also a good shortcut for you may be to highlight the AE comp in Premiere's project panel and doing a right click, edit original to resize  in AE.

[arkayny]

You can in fact import PP sequences into AE. What i used to do was replace footege with AE comp.  In AE make the video reference footage a guide layer.  When i needed to make changes to he text rt click on AE clip and edit original. With both programs open you can go back and forth refining your text.  They update automatically. Just be sure to save AE before closing.  But MOGRTs are the ticket here. 

[thepixelsmith]

There are two workflows for opening Premeire Pro sequences in AE. 

1. In After Effects there is an Import Premiere Pro Project command that converts a Premiere Pro projects and sequences into an AE project. This is a kind of a move all commmand and kind of assumes that you are handign off the project to AE.
2.  Dynamic Link in Premiere Pro allows you to import individual compositions with just a File > Import command. This workflow assumes that you ned to work back and forth between PP and AE.

Does neither of those workflows work for you?

>>AE compositions containing animated text are imported into PP as pixel graphics, not vector graphics. So, upscaling them in PP renders them ragged.<<

That is the same workflow for pretty much all imported files (PS, ILL, Etc) in pretty much every program I have ever used. The basic idea is to edit the file in the source application.

>>Why are AE and PP two separate programs at all?<<
Becasue they exist to do two very different things and there are plenty of users who only use one and not the other and woulnd't need the baggage created by merging two separate programs into one.

[Warren Heaton]

@KlausKi 

Have you tried dragging and dropping a Premiere Pro Sequence from the Premiere Pro project panel to the After Effects project panel?  That's one way to get from one of the programs to the other.  Another approach is to select all the clips in the Premiere Pro Timeline, and then paste them to an After Effects Timeline.

You're onto an interesting idea about being able to continuously rasterize After Effects Compositions that are placed inside of Premiere Pro. That would make a great feature request

I'm definitely in favor of bringing more After Effects like features into Premiere Pro directly, however, discontinuing After Effects entirely and merging it into Premier Pro will likely be horrible for anyone who does motion design or or special effects exclusively.

[KlausKi]

Thanks, guys, for trying to help.

This is what happens when I import PP footage into AE using Dynamic Link (it's basically "nothing"):

[Warren Heaton]

@KlausKi 

Assuming the Sequence isn't empty, that could be a bug.  

A quick thing to double-check is that the version of Premiere Pro and the version of After effects are the same full version and the same dot version.  For example, Premiere Pro 24.6.1 and After Effects 24.6.2.

What happens of you create a duplicate Sequence in Premiere Pro, select all of the footage in the Timeline, and then right-click and choose Replace with After Effects Composition?

[KlausKi]

Hmmm … I'm using PP 24.5.0 and AE 24.5.0 here.