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Where we REALLY NEED AI vs. where Adobe's AI is focus is

Community Beginner ,
Dec 24, 2023 Dec 24, 2023

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TL;DR: Where AI is concerned, Adobe should go first for the LOW HANGING FRUIT: not trying to shove 'Creative AI' in our face all the time (as in Adobe Illustrator...don't think we don't know you are harvesting our "TRY IT NOW" outcomes to train your AI). Why get a machine to do what comes naturally to creatives when you could be getting AI to do what does not come naturally to us (but should come naturally to AI): navigating the technical complexity of an endless labyrinth of upgrades, version differences, UI changes, feature additions and alterations, et al? Remember how useful and valuable R2-D2 was in Star Wars? Remember how he could plug into any access port on the Death Star to help the heroes in their time of need? i.e. How about an AI which intelligently finds & substitutes what is missing or helps the user locate what is missing so we can actually replace it ourselves (instead of just telling us "x is missing, use y instead" and leaving us to hunt for where x might actually be). And make no mistake: at some point, Adobe Creative Cloud has been the "Death Star" to every one of its users. We don't need AI to create for us; we need AI to help us execute our creations more efficiently and effectively using the tools at hand...tools which are always changing, evolving, and are at times utterly unforgiving, enigmatic, overwhelming. and rage-quitting/subscription-cancelling frustrating. You want to revolutionize AI in your industry? Stop trying to create "C3-PO" and focus on building "R2-D2" instead...who was a thousand times more useful to the heroes and one of Star Wars's most beloved characters. C3-PO was generally regarded as annyoing and pretentious comic relief...a flashy gimmick, little more. R2-D2, the unsexy little blue and white trash can on wheels, was the true droid hero. That is Adobe's "best practice" for winning AI assistant in Creative Cloud...one that no creative will see as a threat, and every creative will welcome, applaud, adore, and embrace as their new AI hero. PROVE ME WRONG.       

 

Detailed usage case based on recent experience:

 

Let me preface this by saying I am NOT a seasoned Adobe expert with 20+ experience using Creative Suite. I have 30+ years PC experience and am usually able to figure issues out or find solutions online. However, Adobe stuff has gotten so complicated, and I am working with a downloaded template not of my creation, where the crux of my idea begins...

So I downloaded the PERFECT After Effects motion graphics template for my new book's trailer. I open it up and (naturally) the effect "Lens Blur" is missing. Don't worry, I am told online, just replace it with the new "Camera Lens Blur" and apply the same settings. Only it's a complex template and I have no idea how to find, let alone replace one effect with another...Adobe document search is useless and there is no "find and replace" as one might expect (like MS-Office has had forever). 

 

On top of that, the font used in the template is "BebasNeue/Type 1" which I have...only I don't. I have "Bebas Neue" AE substitutes some unknown serif font (presumably designated "Type 1" but I can't be sure) and never lists it as a "missing font." Again, since I am working with a template, trying to go in and actually change the font in each title doesn't change it in the final composition. There must be some "master font definition" somewhere in the template which I cannot locate (again, document search is useless).

 

Now, in BOTH the above cases, the Internet tells me that the solution is "elementary," but that term is wholly reletive to one's experience...for me, who began meditating as a child, achieving insight and inspiration is "elementary," but I am never going to tell others that. I am a creative, not an editor, nor technical expert in the nuts and bolts of fixing other's creations in a .

 

SURELY, this is where an AI would come in very useful: which would recognize "Lens Blur" as the legacy version of "Camera Lens Blur" and automatically update it, applying the settings from the missing effect to the new effect. Likewise, SURELY, an AI should be able to figure out "BebasNeue" and "Bebas Neue" are the same font, not just from the name but also from recognizing that they are both at least san-serif all caps fonts. 

Last but not least, a document search which doesn't provide a comprehensive list of where in the document a term is referenced is utterly pointless. AE tells me "Lens Blur" is missing. If I search the document for "Lens Blur" to find it so I can substitute it, search returns the "Missing Effects" window ONLY. Again, here is where AI would be useful...navigating the near-impossible to figure out counter-intuitive UI of Adobe products, ESPECIALLY AFTER UPDATES.   

 

And if you think all this isn't "sexy" enough...remember the analogy of R2-D2 versus C3-PO...all that glitters is not gold. No one thinks a dog is sexy...but dog is man's best friend. Stop putting FORM over FUNCTION... you are a software company and you make software TOOLS...APPLICATIONS. But your tools have become so bloated and complex they can barely be APPLIED anymore. Make some videos of your AI assistant making those tools easier, more seamless, more efficient and effective...and you will have tens of thousands more creatives signing up to use said tools. 

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LEGEND ,
Dec 24, 2023 Dec 24, 2023

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Fonts with identical or similar panose names or different versions of the same font breaking has to do with font licensing and other technical stuff and as long as there's literally 20 years old versions of fonts out there that people still use while the font vendor in the meantime has issued updated versions there is nothing anyone can do about it. Conversely, AE updating property streams would not do much in many scenarios when the way an effect actually works has changed. If you're lucky the results may match, otherwise you only get a baseline setup which you still have to tweak. In neither scenario an AI is needed since the property names are already matched. Don't get me wrong, I sure see how this is a pain in the deriere from a user standpoint, but it's nothing even the smartest AI can fix due to how this works under the hood. That's where it needs to be tackled. As for the awful help search - good luck with that as well. We've been talking about that since I can think of and nothing has improved in any meaningful way in those last 20 years and even that is mostly just an issue of organizing servers and databases better, not some fancy AI thing.

 

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Dec 24, 2023 Dec 24, 2023

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Thanks for your reply... but perhaps we did not communicate our suggestion properly. There are "workarounds." Things that a human can technically do to 'solve problems' of various kinds. But said workarounds are not intuitive, they are mechanical... and can only be figured out by those with technical experience/expertise (not a strength of many creative types such as myself). But an AI, modelled after the mechanical synapsis of the rational mind is inherently technical, mechanical by default. If ChatGPT can "learn" from the Internet how to write, then surely an Adobe AI can learn from internal documents, 20 years of software versions, billions of user usage case scenarios, and its own analysis of what's "under the hood" to arrive at, recommend, and/or implement the "workarounds" that we humans are expected to perform. If you can substitute a font similar in form and function, then an AI assistant should be able to do so all the more efficiently and effectively. If you can tinker with the new effect until it produces an output similar to the old, surely an AI, with access to every known version of the software, should through simulation and comparison be able to reproduce the intended output of the legacy effect using the new version of said effect...via thousands or tens of thousands of virtual trial-and-error simulations (which can be done in minutes if not seconds) comparing legacy and new...what NO HUMAN COULD DO. Just as Alpha Go beats humans at that game by analyzing trillions of possible moves/outcomes every single move. Adobe is trying to make AI do what is in the sphere of CONSCIOUSNESS - make art - instead of focusing on where we humans are weak due to the limitations of our rational mind and where AI is inherently strong: mechanical concerns...the number crunching, simulation, testing, comparison on pixel-level accuracy, ability to know what's "under the hood" on countless versions of the software, etc.  Again, and I really practically truly mean this in all seriousness: Adobe CC needs an R2D2 or Hal-9000-like AI equivalent (minus the psychopathic tendencies of HAL, of course) to streamline what is not intrinsically aligned with consciousness and creativity...mechanicity.  

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Engaged ,
Dec 28, 2023 Dec 28, 2023

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Presenting ideas conciese and clear saves devs time and maybe increases a chance of implementing them in the future.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 01, 2024 Feb 01, 2024

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@Attila229672496273 

Just to clarify, this request is for AI assistance when needing to replacing fonts, effects, or media is needed, right?


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