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After Effects CC 2014 - removal of H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV, F4V, and SWF exporters - WHY !?

Jun 21, 2014

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While reading the features of AfterEffects CC2014, I noticed the following:

"removal of H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV, F4V, and SWF exporters from After Effects"

THAT IS IS REDICULOUS!!

NO FLV !?!?
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT USERS TO IMPORT INTO FLASH ??
IF no FLV export is available under After Effects CC 2014, there is NO WAY to EMBED an flv into flash !! (Linking is NOT always what is wanted!!)


NO H264 !?!?!
HAVE YOU GONE CRAZY ?!!?!?

YOU BREAK WORKFLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT IS REDICULOUS!!!


Any chance of restoring such features so that it makes updating to it worthwhile ?

See this for an explanation for the change regarding H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV and for the recommend workflow:

using Adobe Media Encoder to create H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV videos from After Effects

See this for an explanation for the change regarding FLV and F4V and for the recommended workflow:

removal of FLV and F4V export features from Adobe Media Encoder, After Effects, and Premiere Pro

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After Effects CC 2014 - removal of H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV, F4V, and SWF exporters - WHY !?

Jun 21, 2014

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While reading the features of AfterEffects CC2014, I noticed the following:

"removal of H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV, F4V, and SWF exporters from After Effects"

THAT IS IS REDICULOUS!!

NO FLV !?!?
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT USERS TO IMPORT INTO FLASH ??
IF no FLV export is available under After Effects CC 2014, there is NO WAY to EMBED an flv into flash !! (Linking is NOT always what is wanted!!)


NO H264 !?!?!
HAVE YOU GONE CRAZY ?!!?!?

YOU BREAK WORKFLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT IS REDICULOUS!!!


Any chance of restoring such features so that it makes updating to it worthwhile ?

See this for an explanation for the change regarding H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV and for the recommend workflow:

using Adobe Media Encoder to create H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV videos from After Effects

See this for an explanation for the change regarding FLV and F4V and for the recommended workflow:

removal of FLV and F4V export features from Adobe Media Encoder, After Effects, and Premiere Pro

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jun 21, 2014

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Decision is understandable - after all, you can export to AME render where you will find all the possible formats and codecs.

These formats are disappearing from the Render Queue but you can render fo them in AME using Composition/Add to Adobe Media Encoder Queue...

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Jun 21, 2014

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Sorry. In AME CC 2014 you can't export to flv and f4v so if you wish to render from After Effects to flv you have to use previous version of AME (AME  CC).

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Jun 22, 2014

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Excuse me to say but that is REDICULOUS!!

If that was ment to change workflow and user Media Encoder, that would just be fine (even awkward but at least it would work..)


NOT being able to render out to FLV from AE CC 2014 at all, provides NO reason of updating...

There is NO format left to be used to EMBED video INTO FLASH!!!!

If one updates to new version, demanding of still keeping the old one is simply REDICULOUS!!!

WHY on earth this was decided? WHAT weird mind thought of this !!?!?

That is REDICULOUS!!

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Jun 22, 2014

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See this discussion. Re: Show Deprecated Formats in Output Module Settings don't appear in my output option!

It's already started to gather some momentum and it would be good for you to voice your opinion in there to try and keep it going.

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Jun 22, 2014

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added my post to that thread as well...

Hope there is an official response to this issue that would justify wether we should upgrade at all...

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Jun 23, 2014

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See this for an explanation for the change regarding H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV and for the recommend workflow:

using Adobe Media Encoder to create H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV videos from After Effects

See this for an explanation for the change regarding FLV and F4V and for the recommended workflow:

removal of FLV and F4V export features from Adobe Media Encoder, After Effects, and Premiere Pro

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Jun 26, 2014

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I agree, back to 12.2 for me. I don't give a shit how Adobe says I should do my workflow.

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Aug 06, 2015

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I am a new hire at my company and FLV conversion is integral to the workflow that they have set. It is the penultimate step before publication and archiving. Adobe's recommendation for this quagmire is -

"If you do still have a need to create FLV or F4V files for some legacy workflows, then we recommend that you keep the previous versions—Adobe Media Encoder CC (7.2) and After Effects CC (12.2.1)–installed alongside the current versions."


My brand new machine (Macbook Pro OSX 10.10.4) never had the previous version installed, so this is not an option for me. Can you, at the very least, make the previous version available, warts and all?

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Aug 06, 2015

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> Can you, at the very least, make the previous version available

You can install all versions from CS6 forward through Creative Cloud.

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Aug 06, 2015

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If you have a creative cloud subscription then you have access to CS6, CC, CS14 and CS15. You just have to use the Creative Cloud app to find them and download them. Look under the second bar that says find additional apps, then move right and click the All Apps link to reveal View Previous Versions. That's all there is to it.

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Sep 30, 2015

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CC app no longer has media encoder v7 - the one needed for FLV export apparently.

Adobe - its like you're a landlord and you rent your big house out make lots of money then at quarter to 4 in the afternoon you remove the front door and replace it with a helipad on the roof WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE! All your new features are zilch compared to the time you have wasted me and thousands of other customers who just want to get stuff done.

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Jun 26, 2014

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At my company, we still make flash banners. Lots of them, every week. I use the feature of creating text animation in After Effects. It has bundles of great presets for text animation, that can be used and exported as SWF. First, Adobe removes the functionality to import SWF into Flash CC. So I have to use Flash CS6 as well. Still need both though, cause I need to import Illustrator documents too (Flash CS6 doesn't support the latest version). And now with After Effects CC 2014, they remove SWF export all together...

At my job, there is someone employed doing kerning for text in Photoshop. For me to keep that perfect kerning for the Flash banner, I have to import the PSD to After Effects and then export the text layers as SWF to get that kerning preserved. I noticed it was possible to import PSD into the new Flash CC 2014, but the kerning was messed up on import.

Come on, Flash is not dead damnit! Why are you removing features that we rely on?

Adobe rage today...

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Jun 26, 2014

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I agree too. i always used h264 and flv. it's very very disappointed.

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Jul 03, 2014

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I agree too. i always used h.264

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Jul 03, 2014

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I find this to be absolutely ridiculous as well. I don't see why we can't just ADD the AME export features to our existing workflow instead of forcing them on us. I am constantly exporting to H264 for review directly from AE in a clean and efficient manner, and this workflow is not that. Often times I have multiple comps that I have queued up in the Render Queue with all my settings ready. I only have to tick them on, check the filename, and hit render for a new iteration of all of my comps.

As it stands now, I have to re-export to AME every time I make changes to my comp, which copies another aep to my project location to be queued for AME. Not exactly streamlined, IMO.

Also, this means I can't use any 3rd party scripts (BG Render) for command line rendering unless I want to render to the much less useful approved list. I MUCH prefer BG Render or command line rendering in general, as it's faster and lighter with verbose rendering. It also provides post render actions, like text, email, shutdown, sounds, scripts, whatever, which I find EXTREMELY USEFUL.

Additionally, there is no way I would want to render a lossless file for a watch folder for each iteration of a project. That's just insane. Especially if I'm working off of the "cloud".

If I'm wrong about how any of this works, please feel free to correct me, but I am not happy at all with this forced workflow.

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