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animated font has pixels

Explorer ,
May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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hi there,

these are the settings I apply:

 

Projekt-Einstellungen.JPGRendereinstellungen.JPGEinstellungen für Ausgabemodule.JPG

 

now, for some reason, the animated font is not clean/you kind of can see pixels.

What could be the problem?

Thanks!

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LEGEND ,
May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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Und das heißt konkret? Nix für ungut, aber ist irgendwie unsinnig, uns alle möglichen Einstellungen zu zeigen, ohne einen Screenshot vom eigentlichen Problem mitzuliefern ebenso wie die wirklich relevanten Infos wie z.B. die verwendete Schriftart und wie sie eingebunden ist.

 

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May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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How big is your font? Is it possible that you are zoomed in very tightly in the comp panel?

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Explorer ,
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die neue Produktion.JPG

this is how it looks.

I use TT Firs-Font. 55 px, 70 px.
when animated, it gets slightly smaller/bigger.

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LEGEND ,
May 28, 2020 May 28, 2020

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Eigentlich alles in Ordnung. Der Font ist eben nur gerade ein bissl ungünstig - zu viele rechwinklige Kanten, symmetrische Buchstaben und flache Winkel, die mit dem Antialaising nicht so gut zu glätten sind. Das ist eine Einschränkung, an die du dich gewöhnen musst. Das wird sogar noch schlimmer, wenn du's als MP4 oder so ausgibst, weil sich dadurch noch mehr Blöcke bilden. Die einzig wirkliche Lösung wäre ein anderer Font, aber eventuell reicht ja ein dezenter Gausscher Weichzeichner oder ein hauchdünner Glow.

 

Mylenium

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Explorer ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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hallo, 

 

danke für die Antwort.

 

well, it is a font I actually bought...

 

I still cannot fully understand these problems... 

 

How do I have to do this with "Gausscher Weichzeichner oder ein hauchdünner Glow"?

 

My knowledge is quite limited, so I would need concrete instructions..

 

Danke!

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Mentor ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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Can you please provide a non-cropped screenshot showing the issue and your workspace.

 

*Martin

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workspace AE.JPG

 

is that what you were asking for?

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Mentor ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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Deine Vorschauauflösung steht auf halb, der Vorschau-Zoom ist nicht auf 100% (so kannst Du keine Bildqualität beurteilen), die Schrift ist nicht bei 100% Skalierung (stell lieber die Schriftgröße entsprechend ein).

 

*Martin

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Explorer ,
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AE Workspace 2.JPG

 

okay. hier mit Vorschauauflösung "voll" und Vorschau-Zoom 100 %.

Skalierung ist bei 98 %, weil ja die Schriftgröße animiert wird, von 95 % auf 100 %.

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Mentor ,
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Du kannst auch die Schriftgröße animieren - aber egal.

So schaut's doch gut aus! Du kannst noch versuchen die Schrift genau auf das Pixelraster auszurichten, so dass die horizontalen und vertikalen Linien kein Anti-alaising haben.

 

Ansonsten was Mylenium schon geschrieben hat.

 

*Martin

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Explorer ,
May 29, 2020 May 29, 2020

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naja, da sieht es gut aus..

wenn ich es dann ins Schnittprogramm packe und von dort rendere, dann treten die Probleme auf..

Was heißt "auf das Pixelraster" packen?

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Mentor ,
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Wenn es im Schnittprogramm nicht gut aussieht, dann liegt das vielleicht auch an den dortigen Vorschaueinstellungen (die lassen sich oft auch reduzieren).

 

Es kann aber auch am Codec liegen, in dem Du die Animation ausspielst, bzw. dessen Einstellungen. Da bräuchten wir mal mehr Details zu Deiner gesamten Arbeitsweise.

So eine kleine Textanimation kannst Du aber auch gleich im Schnittprogramm erstellen. Dann sparst Du Dir den Umweg über After Effekts.

 

*Martin

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Explorer ,
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also ich hab das Problem im EDIUS-Forum beschrieben.

Die meinten, ich müsse herausfinden, wie ich in AE

1920x1080 25p erstelle und als progressiv exportiere.

Kann mir das jemand sagen?

Danke!

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Explorer ,
May 30, 2020 May 30, 2020

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sorry, I just wrote in German..

 

I would like to know how I can export in 1920*1080 25p and progressive?

 

Thanks.

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Mentor ,
May 30, 2020 May 30, 2020

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You create a comp with those settings and render it as video - that's all. AE works progressive on default. 

 

Since you want the text in your editing software, you should use an professional intermedia codec like DNxHD, ProRes4444 or Cineform. If you need alpha, don't forget to export the video with rgb+alpha. All those codecs can handle alpha channel.

 

*Martin

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video codec options.JPG

I guess these are the codec options I have..

what should I do?

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AE - Komp-Einstellungen.JPG

 

and these are the options for comp settings.

which one is the correct one?

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Mentor ,
May 30, 2020 May 30, 2020

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HDTV 1080 25p is the correct comp setting.

 

For the codec, send your comp to Adobe Media Encoder - AE export options are quiete limited I guess.

 

You might need to install Avid Codecs, if there is no DNxHD codec. Not sure if there are included by default.

https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/download/Avid-QuickTime-Codecs-LE

 

As said, ProRes, and Cineform should do it, too.

 

*Martin

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May 31, 2020 May 31, 2020

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hi,

what exactly does this mean: "send your comp to Adobe Media Encoder"?

I never worked with Media Encoder before.

My version of Adobe Media Encoder has as setting option:
"TV Broadcast > DN*HD MXF OP1a > 1080p 50" -> is this the correct one?

It also has

"TV Broadcast > GoPro CineForm > GoPro Cineform RGB 12-Bit mit Alpha [oder GoPro CineForm YUV 10-Bit]"

Which one should I choose?

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Adobe Media Encoder - Codecs.JPGAdobe Media Encoder - Settings.JPG

are these settings correct?

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May 31, 2020 May 31, 2020

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I did a test.. the result looks pretty good.

 

but there is one problem: the output file is mxf.

 

But I cannot import MXF into Edius. 

 

How can I have another export format?

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Mentor ,
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You can try to choose QuickTime with DNxHD codec.

 

If this isn't working, export your animation as image sequence (PNG or Tiff). You can do this directly in AE and hopefully Edius (whatever this is) can import it.

 

I want to point out once again that you could have done the whole text animaton just in Premiere Pro, or at least use PPro instead of Eidus and use Dynamic Link to import the AE sequence. PPro can work with MXF, also.

Maybe next time...

 

*Martin

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