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Animation Codec options changed in AE/Premiere 2015.3

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Aug 30, 2016

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Looks like the export options have changed for the Animation codec in the latest version.When exporting, one used to be able to have the quality level slider available.

These look to have disappeared in the latest version.

What gives?

New 2015.3 (13.8.1)

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Old 2015 (13.7.1)

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Since Apple suddenly announced that they are dropping support for QuickTime, Adobe has had to scramble a bit. They quickly adjusted things and After Effects no longer relies on QuickTime to encode or decode most of the commonly used QuickTime codecs anymore. Recent versions introduced native encoding for Animation (among others). However, the native codecs have some differences.

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Animation Codec options changed in AE/Premiere 2015.3

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Looks like the export options have changed for the Animation codec in the latest version.When exporting, one used to be able to have the quality level slider available.

These look to have disappeared in the latest version.

What gives?

New 2015.3 (13.8.1)

Screen Shot 2016-08-30 at 10.42.49 AM.png

Old 2015 (13.7.1)

Screen Shot 2016-08-30 at 11.27.02 AM.png

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Correct answer by Szalam | Adobe Community Professional

Since Apple suddenly announced that they are dropping support for QuickTime, Adobe has had to scramble a bit. They quickly adjusted things and After Effects no longer relies on QuickTime to encode or decode most of the commonly used QuickTime codecs anymore. Recent versions introduced native encoding for Animation (among others). However, the native codecs have some differences.

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Since Apple suddenly announced that they are dropping support for QuickTime, Adobe has had to scramble a bit. They quickly adjusted things and After Effects no longer relies on QuickTime to encode or decode most of the commonly used QuickTime codecs anymore. Recent versions introduced native encoding for Animation (among others). However, the native codecs have some differences.

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This is correct.

After Effects CC 2015.3 (13.8.1), Premiere Pro CC 2015.4 (10.4), Adobe Media Encoder CC 2015.4 (10.4), Audition CC 2015.2 (9.2.1), and Prelude CC 2015.4 (5.0.1) can now import and export QuickTime files that use the Animation codec without assistance from QuickTime 7 on Windows, or from the Adobe QT32 Server process on macOS.

Native import of Animation currently only supports I-frame only movies (no compression key frames set).

Native export of Animation currently only supports I-frame only movies (no compression key frames set, i.e. the "Key frame every" option is enabled) at 100% quality.

Native export of Animation only supports the Uncompressed audio codec. Attempting to export a QuickTime file with the Animation codec and compressed audio codecs will fail with an error message, “Compressor format error”.

We are monitoring feedback from users to understand if we should add support for compression keyframes or less-than 100% quality.

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After Effects CC 2015.3 (13.8.1) Bug-Fix Update Is Now Available | Creative Cloud blog by Adobe

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We use the 50% quality area for Animation in order to fit into bandwidth constraints in our delivery specs.

The hardware playback gear these files go into only supports Animation, but a bandwidth limitation of 100-150Mbps.

So that is our dilemma.

The previous versions will work for us for a while...

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asdfasdfe wrote:

The previous versions will work for us for a while...

The handy thing is that you can work in the newer versions if they're more stable for you and then open the same project file in the older versions to render!

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If bandwidth is your main conceren, then Animation is already not the most obvious choice for lossless codec with small file size. Quicktime Png will be the smallest file size but will take more time to render. If render time is also a concern, then Jpeg2000 will give you lossless quality and alpha support with pretty fast render time and still a much smaller filesize than Animation.

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Hey Tim,
The "Key frame every" option is really important in order to make smaller file size with no significant quality loss.
Just installed AE 2017 and the option is still not supported, so I´ll stick to 2015.2 for now.
Is there a way to disable animation codec from Adobe and use the Apple´s one?

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We would still love to have a keyframe-setting for the lossless animation codec.

It saves a lot of space for graphics assets, such as animated logo's, or cartoonstyle graphics.

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