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Color Management - Media Encoder vs After Effects?

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Jun 09, 2020

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I'm trying to render an AE project in AME and for some reason the colors are always different.
I read in CreativeCow a reference to an explanation here on this forum (that I can't find anymore):

"There is no color management in Premiere Pro or the Adobe Media Encoder application.
You can use the Color Profile Converter effect to do the color space conversion that would normally be done by the output module in After Effects.
For example, you could create a new composition with nothing in it but an adjustment layer and a nested composition that is the composition that you want to output. Onto that adjustment layer, apply the Color Profile Converter effect and manually set up the color space conversion. Then send the new, containing composition to AME or Dynamic Link to Premiere Pro or whatever."

But for the life of me I can't get it working right.
I have these settings in my After Effects project:
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But even using the Color Profile Converter (tried in each layer, in a nested comp, in an Adjustment layer... it doesn't matter) the colors in AME shows badly washed out:
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If I activate the "Enable Display Color Management" option in AME Preferences it looks ok:

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But the output files look bad anyway.


After many days banging my head against this problem it's driving me insane...   what the hell am I doing wrong?

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Color Management - Media Encoder vs After Effects?

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Jun 09, 2020

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I'm trying to render an AE project in AME and for some reason the colors are always different.
I read in CreativeCow a reference to an explanation here on this forum (that I can't find anymore):

"There is no color management in Premiere Pro or the Adobe Media Encoder application.
You can use the Color Profile Converter effect to do the color space conversion that would normally be done by the output module in After Effects.
For example, you could create a new composition with nothing in it but an adjustment layer and a nested composition that is the composition that you want to output. Onto that adjustment layer, apply the Color Profile Converter effect and manually set up the color space conversion. Then send the new, containing composition to AME or Dynamic Link to Premiere Pro or whatever."

But for the life of me I can't get it working right.
I have these settings in my After Effects project:
OGslzRY
But even using the Color Profile Converter (tried in each layer, in a nested comp, in an Adjustment layer... it doesn't matter) the colors in AME shows badly washed out:
XaYTjAN

If I activate the "Enable Display Color Management" option in AME Preferences it looks ok:

M9x80rR

But the output files look bad anyway.


After many days banging my head against this problem it's driving me insane...   what the hell am I doing wrong?

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Jun 12, 2020

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At last!

Setting the "Working Space" to None and a 2.4 Working Gamma in Project Settings and then an Adjustment Layer with a "Color Profile Converter" with a HDTV (Rec.709) Output did the trick!

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Damn AME and its lack of Color Management for Output.

Now let's hope Adobe care enough to just put a "Use Display Color Management for Output" checkbox in AME Preferences so we don't have to keep doing this dirty trick forever.

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