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Is it me or AIR33 Beta is delayed? We are a few days before April and there is no beta version yet. It looks like the 1st quarter release is missed.

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AIR33 Where is it?

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Is it me or AIR33 Beta is delayed? We are a few days before April and there is no beta version yet. It looks like the 1st quarter release is missed.

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quarterly release means end of the month is the end of the quarter
so that would be end of March for the first quarter

some Adobe AIR releases in the past were around 8th of April

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This is true, but in most previous versions, we got a beta versions 4-5 weeks before the stable one.

Also the previous years:
2018 - 1st Quarter Stable - 14 March
2017 - 1st Quarter Stable - 13 March
2016 - 1st Quarter Stable - 10 March

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yeah OK but ti does not really matter

I could bet those release are planed on "best effort" and other stuff can take the priority
or it could also be "it will be ready when it will be ready"

simply put, that's the developers working on it that decide,

whatever cause the delay (if we can call that a delay)

I'm pretty sure it is for good reason(s)

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Well based in previous years, it was always on specific dates (2nd tuesday of every quarter month) so up to now it was planned and not released "when ready".

I guess we will see, it just felt like long time since previous version.

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I am also checking the Air beta page almost daily since I was expecting Air 33 to hit early March. I have some hopes that the delay is due to the integration of the Android 64 Bits requirement, of course

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Probably.

I guess that if they release v33 with Android 64 bits support, people will tell that they knew and how Adobe is great but if they release without fulfill these requirements will be the end of the world.

Mark by post.

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Lets hope they will release anything

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I new release just came out: Adobe Labs | Previews, prereleases and beta software from Adobe

The version kept the same (32) and as always I opened the release notes and I'm confused what is new (just a copy and past, changed the release date).

I can identify only a fix on Flash Player.

3..2..1.. for the end of the world (on this foruns).

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ld error on Windows when using platformSDK option (AIR-4198796)

This was the fix. There was an issue on compiling for iOS and a lot of ANEs failed, especially Facebook. However still no 33. 

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Nice, I was waiting for this fix!

No worries about Air 33, they will certainly work on different branches for new features, so just because this is the only change in the release this does obviously not mean this was the only thing they were working on since Feb 20.

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AIR 32 beta 101 is OK.
i use AIR develop this APP:
‎Oriole Music Player on the App Store
it is a music player,can play flac wav mp3 dsf dff aiff aifc music file.
Apple has passed the app review.has by xcode 10.1 sdk

but for a music player,there is a big bug at there. can't show info at ios Music Control Center and recive button event.

hope Adobe can support it ,or give a ios ANE.

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You should proof-read your copy. You don't need this first instance of "high-end":

"This is a hi-end super high-end music player."

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the sound is very good,i use as3 for play flac and DSP Sound.works very well.

you can see the user who paid $49.99 for this app he says:

--------------------

Hi,

Appreciate your app!

Oriole is a great application because it brings the best audio experience for ios, Oriole is superior to iAudioGate, Kaiser and etc.

With a price of $49.99 it is absolutely worth t to have the experience of enjoying music on your iPhone device, it delivers the perfect sound quality for all types of headphones.

Thank you, 5 Stars!

Best,

--------------------

the sound is really good.

the best of best music player at ios is written by Adobe AIR.

so it is hi-end.

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OK.
Thanks for reminding.

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So it is official. No 1st quarter update for 2019. So next possible date for stable release now is May 9th.

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Did they make a statement anywhere about the delay?  Obviously it's late since the 1st quarter is over, just curious why you mentioned May 9th would be the soonest and not sometime in April.

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There is no mention Flipline​. However there used to be a study pattern for AIR released

1. Release of Beta version in the labs, for 4-5 weeks, then
2. Release of Stable version on the 2nd Tuesday of the following month.

So based on that logic, May 9th might be a possible release date if we get a beta early in April.

If this doesn't happen, next possible date is June 13th (2nd Tuesday of the quarter month).

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Leo+Kanel  wrote

So it is official. No 1st quarter update for 2019. So next possible date for stable release now is May 9th.

yeah that's some very useful comment you posted there

let me see... about publishing a release
humm first, never do release on monday or friday
then considering the crowd certainly not produce a release on April 1st

now I will wait with anxiety about all those questions why people never do releases on monday or friday
probably gonna make a bingo game about it

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zwetan_uk Do you see anywhere in my reply saying that it should be published today? Or any Friday or Monday?

As I said, it is well known, that up to now, we get 1 update every quarter month (March, June, September, December), on the 2nd Tuesday (whatever the date). As you might miss that, Tuesday is not a monday or a friday.

The point is that this quarter we didn't get an update.

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And today is 9th April but Adobe  is still silent for Air 33

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Air 33 is not yet here, but at least there is a new non-beta AIR 32 (32.0.0.116) out.

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yoonesm68067284  wrote

And today is 9th April but Adobe  is still silent for Air 33

how software release works

first you version your software

when you fix bugs you increase the PATCH and/or REVISION and/or BUILD version number

when you add new features you increase the MAJOR and/or MINOR version number

usually you favor fixing bug over adding new features

the AIR 32.0.0.116 release is the Q1 quarterly release

voila it is official you have it and no it does not have to be a v33

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So what you say is, we don't have a Major update for Q1. Just a maintenance / security one with some minor fixes.

Obviously this is not a release for Q1 as it was released in December 5 2018, 4 months ago.

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Leo+Kanel  wrote

So what you say is, we don't have a Major update for Q1. Just a maintenance / security one with some minor fixes.

Obviously this is not a release for Q1 as it was released in December 5 2018, 4 months ago.

that was 32.0.0.89

32.0.0.116 IS a new release

that's why you have different numbers in the version: to differentiate the two of them

it is not because you don't understand the software release process that you can redefine how it works

Adobe as a software vendor, and like any other software vendor, plan their releases
they decided to do them quarterly
it is not a guarantee of "Major update" whether you like it or not
it is just a guarantee of constant and consistent releases

eg. "people can expect a new release"

they favor security fixes and bug fixing over new features
which is a pretty standard among software professionals

I really don't see where is the problem with all that

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Do you know for Google official limit (android 64 bit) we have just 4 months to update our applications?

Do you know all air apps crash on android Q?

I think these are reasons that we have to consider that and we are looking for Air 33

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yoonesm68067284  wrote

Do you know for Google official limit (android 64 bit) we have just 4 months to update our applications?

Do you know all air apps crash on android Q?

I think these are reasons that we have to consider that and we are looking for Air 33

and so what? you are here doubting the capacity of a professional team of dev when you don't know the basic about software release

it is always the same thing "bouh bouh bouh thing is not working under this and that"
except that "this" or "that" are BETA

is Android Q a final release or a beta release?
it is perfectly normal to not update your own software that depends on other software

when this other software is only in the state of BETA

you update when it get out of beta because then you know your effort not gonna be wasted

so yeah you may tinkle a little bit with it but basically you wait for the GM release (Gold Master)

every single software vendor will tell you the same thing

WE DO NOT RECOMMEND RELEASING APPS BASED ON PRERELEASE

IF YOU CHOSE TO RELEASE YOUR APPS USING BETA VERSIONS
YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISKS


a prerelease or preview or beta is there to test the software "in the wild"
it is expected to be unstable, to have issues and bugs and errors, etc.

that's why you have different categories of releases
ALPHA - expect it to crash
BETA - expect it to have bugs
GOLD MASTER - expect it to be stable or "no known bugs"

so check out Android Q , read under "General Advisories"

Support and Release Notes  |  Android Developers

can you read in bold "some apps may not function as expected" ?

in short you're complaining that BETA software is not stable like a a GM release
which, in my book, is stupid

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There should be a AIR33 because that's what the AIR team HAS ALWAYS DONE, period. Your excuses and other pseudo software version principle courses don't apply and are irrelevant.

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There should be a AIR33 because that's what the AIR team HAS ALWAYS DONE, period. Your excuses and other pseudo software version principle courses don't apply and are irrelevant.

since when you decide what an other team do things?

get a life LOL

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Oh, well, the usual troll at these forums! The same guy that trolled to no end about dropping support for hybrid 32+64 bit iOS apps for no good reason about a year ago. Luckily, the Adobe AIR team didn't listen to you, and support is still available.

Now you troll again just because people complain that Adobe is missing their deadlines. Well, it's perfectly reasonable to complain about this. We're on April 12th already and no sign of a new major AIR release, which they usually do quarterly, and a slowing down of version releases is a bad sign when Google will stop accepting 32-bit only apps on the Play Store in just a few months and there's still no word from Adobe of when can we expect to have such support.

You're excusing them just because Android Q is BETA (in all caps). Well, the point of a BETA release of an Operating System is precisely to test software that runs on it before the final version of the OS is finally deployed. Also, according to your own "rules" about beta software, we can expect to get bugs with a beta, but not a full app CRASH at startup!

Probably AIR apps crash not because it's a beta OS but because of important changes in the OS which will make AIR apps crash in the final version as well! The Adobe team should fix these crashes before the OS is deployed to users! And the final version of Android Q will be published on August 2019 as well!

So all problems will happen at once if AIR is not updated (no support for 32-bit only apps in the Play Store plus ALL Adobe AIR apps crashing at startup on the latest version of Android, everything on the same month).

What you say about "it is perfectly normal to not update your own software that depends on other software when this other software is only in the state of BETA" is not applicable to Operating Systems. Both Apple and Google release beta versions of their OSes so software developers can test their software BEFORE the OS is deployed to the end users.

If all developers waited for the final version of the OS without testing anything in advance, then they could face catastrophic results such as crashing apps at startup when people massively update when the OS comes out publicly. That's what's happening with Adobe AIR and Android Q, and it's not because it's a beta. Beta versions of Operating Systems are pretty stable software, especially when we are only a few months away from the Final Release. The final version of Android Q will probably differ very little from the beta version. It's Adobe the ones that should work on fixing the problems before the beta goes final!

We can't just say "nah, it's a beta OS so that's why they crash" and trust that AIR apps won't crash in the final version. Actually, the most likely situation is they'll keep crashing in the final version if nothing is done about it, because it's only AIR apps that crash at startup, not ALL apps that run on Android Q, so Google won't fix that.

Also, the bug tracker issue about the lack of 64-bit support in Adobe AIR for Android was published 3 months ago and NOBODY from the Adobe AIR team has replied even if just to drop a lousy one liner saying "we're working on it" or whatever. NOTHING! This is completely unacceptable, and it's perfectly normal that people are concerned about the future of AIR and complain about it.

Tracker

Please stop trolling these forums. You're never helpful and you just waste other people's time with your trolling posts where you only say nonsense while also being rude to other forum members. If anything, it should be YOU the one who should "get a life", as you say, instead of wasting your time in importunating members of a forum of a professional tool with perfectly valid complaints.

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He's not trolling, he just never got over the self inflicted breakup with the sexy little beast that is Flash/Adobe Air. I do suffer from that a little bit myself. I admit that I come here to see if what I think is gonna happen - an actual announcement from adobe about the EOL of the platform - is actually happening. Once you think this is whats likely, you can't help but read into things.

Nonetheless, i'll be still sad if and when it happens. It will bring me no joy .. so what am I doing here ? .. ah yes .. that sexy little beast .. never got over it really ...

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I have often in these forums talked about the end of AIR and how ineluctable I thought it was but I always said Adobe will announce it and then it'll take a few years before they actually pull the plug.

But what is actually going on, with no AIR33 release and the Android deadlines coming up makes me think that I might have been too optimistic and maybe the AIR team is already giving up and gonna let us all down this year. If that happens that would be the first time Adobe does something I did not see coming.

If anyone still thinks the future of AIR is guarantied (and there are still many who do) then this should be your wake up call.

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I would prefer a more respectful and friendly atmosphere here. It's fine for you that you are a real professional but allow other with limited skills (if so) also to communicate here without being attacked. Thank you!

Marc

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