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How serious is the lack of AIR support for x86 Android devices?

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Mar 05, 2014

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I want to know if I've understood this right, and what the implications are.

I've come to understand that certain Android devices, specifically those with x86 processors (such as Samsung Tab 3) cannot run apps built with AIR, or at least will run them extremely slowly to the point of being useless.

First of all, is this true?

Secondly, what are the implications? If a segment of users in Google Play cannot properly run the apps we build for Android, this is almost an argument for not building Android apps at all, since those users will give extremely poor reviews - and in any case, we will end up with a percentage of Android users being extremely dissatisfied with the app and complaining.

Can anyone tell me if I understand the situation correctly, and what is the current assessment of the seriousness of the problem?

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How serious is the lack of AIR support for x86 Android devices?

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I want to know if I've understood this right, and what the implications are.

I've come to understand that certain Android devices, specifically those with x86 processors (such as Samsung Tab 3) cannot run apps built with AIR, or at least will run them extremely slowly to the point of being useless.

First of all, is this true?

Secondly, what are the implications? If a segment of users in Google Play cannot properly run the apps we build for Android, this is almost an argument for not building Android apps at all, since those users will give extremely poor reviews - and in any case, we will end up with a percentage of Android users being extremely dissatisfied with the app and complaining.

Can anyone tell me if I understand the situation correctly, and what is the current assessment of the seriousness of the problem?

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I have a friend who has hit this issue, but I’m not sure if th performance is a bit bad, or very bad. I’ll ask him tonight.

Meanwhile, looking at this page:

http://developer.android.com/google/play/filters.html

suggests that if you include an ANE that has ARMv7 specific code in it (which I guess most ANEs will have), then Google Play will not show that app to x86 users. I haven’t tested that, but I do have apps in the store that are using ANE. If I can find an x86 user I should be able to check that.

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Yes, I made the mistake of buying a Tab 3 specifically for testing my AIR apps on a tablet! Not totally unplayable on there, but certainly off the pace. I get more complaints from users that can't run AIR apps at all.

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Can you look for these apps on your Tab 3, to see if they show for you?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.BroomstickProductions.MeetHeckerty.A1

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.air.com.hitentertainment.CastleGames

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Yep, both show up on a search in Google Play.

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Oh well…

I only use a couple of ANEs there, and maybe they’re not using ARMv7 specific code, but just calling the Android OS functions.

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Strangely enough, I'm getting decent 3D performance out of it (with Flare 3D at least) so maybe that's what the future holds...

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You are correct, and yes, this is indeed a very critical issue for many : https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3651397

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Our apps made with AIR seem to crash or hang on a black screen when played on x86 devices like the Galaxy Tab 3.  This could be a serious issue moving forward if more and more Android devices are released with x86 processors instead of ARMv7.

Unfortunately Adobe hasn't made any announcements about supporting Intel x86 chips for Android, and seeing as these tablets have been out for months now, you would think they'd have mentioned something by now if they were going to support it.  It doesn't bode well for the future of using AIR for Android development if more and more manufacturers switch to x86...

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I'm experiencing the same thing.

I have choosen to exclude the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 from the supported device list in Google Play Developer Console.

Does anyone know of a list of Android Devices that use a x86 chip? Is it just the Tab3? Or should I exclude other devices too?

Thanks!

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