Why does the volume get louder when I go from Audition to Animate

Enthusiast ,
Oct 01, 2019 Oct 01, 2019

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I have been driving the Audition people crazy thinking that the problem was with them. Now I an certain that the issue is with Animate. I recored spoken words in small batches - just a few words at a time - and them place them into Animate exactly where they belong. But the volume is several points above what I need or want. How to I get it to just playback my recording without any adjustments?

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Guide ,
Oct 01, 2019 Oct 01, 2019

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Hi mate,

 

Learn about digital audio, normalization, compression, your OS sound mixer (which can have different volume settings per application), Decibel (dB) and so on, and you will realise that your question is meaningless.

 

Animate does not amplify or alter audio clips imported in it, unless you change (decrease) the volume using the Effect / Envelope tool.

 

Nick – Character designer and animator, Flash user since 1998
Member of Flanimate Power Tools team – extensions for character animation – flash-powertools dot com

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Oct 01, 2019 Oct 01, 2019

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One thing to check is the publishing settings. By default sound is converted from stereo to mono, and that could have the effect of making the sound be louder. Try setting that to stereo, or just import mono audio.

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Guide ,
Oct 01, 2019 Oct 01, 2019

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@Colin

 

This is the user's topic in the Audition forum. 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/Audition/How-do-I-get-the-volume-of-a-recording-to-be-similar-to-the/...

 

They have ignored the good questions and advice given to them there to come and post the same question here.

From both topics, I'd say, it is clear that they mean the sound volume within Animate when hitting Play or Enter.

 

It is also clear that they lack any understanding what they are doing or talking about.

 

Nick – Character designer and animator, Flash user since 1998
Member of Flanimate Power Tools team – extensions for character animation – flash-powertools dot com

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 01, 2019 Oct 01, 2019

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Thanks for the tip, though what I said may still be of use. Animate's mixer may not be perfect, and combining left and right channels into one could give something that sounded louder.

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Guide ,
Oct 01, 2019 Oct 01, 2019

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There has been a suggestion in the pre-release to change the MP3 defaults when exporting to SWF. 160kbps and no conversion to mono would make much more sense nowadays. Hope they really do it. Will remove much unnecessary confusion.

 

Nick – Character designer and animator, Flash user since 1998
Member of Flanimate Power Tools team – extensions for character animation – flash-powertools dot com

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Oct 01, 2019 Oct 01, 2019

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Of course, I know about those suggestions! I didn't add to that conversations yet, but for HTML5 Canvas I do all of my sound and image optimizations outside of Animate. I agree with the idea of increasing MP3 beyond 160kbps, and would vote for making stereo be the default.

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 02, 2019 Oct 02, 2019

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Okay - I've taken two pictures, one of the sound in Audition here:

AuditionAudition

And one of Animate sound:

AnimateAnimate

You can LOOK at them and know that the one is Animate it much louder - that is my problem!

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 03, 2019 Oct 03, 2019

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I've been importing sounds/music into Flash/Aninate for 20 years and have never seen this first hand or heard anyone mention it on any forum. Bizarre. What are the specs on the audio? WAV?

Animator and content creator for Animate CC

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 04, 2019 Oct 04, 2019

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Yes they are all .wav. There is nothing special about the recordings. I did them in Audition. I just re-recorded them today and left the sound quiet so that when I brought them into Animate they would be closer to what I needed but to no avail. The sound is still screaming. There is no explanation that I can see.

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 04, 2019 Oct 04, 2019

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I had a similar conversation with SteveG_AudioMasters in the audio end of things. He also said that there should be no reason for it. But there it is!

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Guide ,
Oct 04, 2019 Oct 04, 2019

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Check your audio properties and adjust if necessary.

Animate works best with 16-bit 44100 Hz PCM WAV.

If your audio has different specs this can be a reason for unusual behaviour.

 

Nick – Character designer and animator, Flash user since 1998
Member of Flanimate Power Tools team – extensions for character animation – flash-powertools dot com

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 05, 2019 Oct 05, 2019

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Make sure you check Audio settings in publish settings.

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 22, 2019 Oct 22, 2019

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I have checked all audio settings and there doesn't seem to be a problem there. I am at my wits end. When I set up to import the sounds but they are still outside the program the sound is correct. I bring it in and the sound explodes. I have done this one hundred times and not had this problem. Would someone be interested in going to DropBox and checking out what is happening?

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Oct 22, 2019 Oct 22, 2019

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I would be interested. Can your files include the source sound file as well  as your FLA before and after the sound is imprted?

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 23, 2019 Oct 23, 2019

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It took me a while but I did it. you should have something in the .gmail.com address you sent me. (Nowhere is there an Adobe address.)

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Oct 23, 2019 Oct 23, 2019

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I looked at your example files, and the WAVs are 48 kHz, 32 bit. Animate likes 44.1 kHz, 16 bit. It used to be that importing 24 or 32 bit sounds would either fail completely, or would be heavily distorted. That would happen if the top 16 bits or bottom 16 bits were used from the sound file. Things seem to be improved now, but instead doing a smart amplification of the sound to cope with changing it from 24 or 32 bit to 16 bit, it's doing something simpler that ends up scaling the volume somewhat.

 

Doesn't matter though, because you shoud be giving Animate 44.1 kHz 16 bit. If you export your sounds from Audition with those settings, they import and behave at the same volume they are in Audition.

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Guide ,
Oct 23, 2019 Oct 23, 2019

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It's quite fascinating to see such a stubborn and entitled user, ignoring all the good advice they got over such a long period of time.

 

Then sending files privately in a public forum, instead of sharing via a file hosting service.

 

This behaviour should really be reprimanded.

 

Here is what I wrote 20 days ago in this same topic:

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At the end it finally becomes clear that the OP did not follow any of the given advice, and all imported audio was with unsupported bit depth and frequency.

 

Nick – Character designer and animator, Flash user since 1998
Member of Flanimate Power Tools team – extensions for character animation – flash-powertools dot com

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Oct 23, 2019 Oct 23, 2019

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On the file sharing question, he did share them via dropbox to me. I got the files that way and only found out about the links here later.

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Enthusiast ,
Oct 23, 2019 Oct 23, 2019

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That did it. Thank you so much!

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