Audio trouble using Première pro and Reaper DAW at the same time (Asio driver)

Report · May 01, 2018

Hello,

i rencently bought a soundcard Yamaha ag03 and i am using it at 192 khz with the Steinberg usb driver.

I work on a project in premiere pro and at the same time with Reaper DAW, the files i am working with on premiere have been recorded at 48kHz sample rate, coming from a go pro

The first problem is , if it do not set the Steinberg usb driver to bet running at 48kHz i am experiencing hudge lags and image rollbacks in premiere, the only way to fix this is first to set the sound card driver to be running at 48 kHZ and then go in premiere pro, settings, audio hardware and select MME ( Asio doesn work for some reason??) and restart premiere.

The second problem is that i am running Premiere and Reaper at the same time and i would like to be able to set the Sample rate at 192 kHz for Reaper, but its impossible because premiere pro will lag if i do that.

So my question is, is there any driver or solution i could use to avoid lags and be able to run both programs at the same time at the highest sample rate.

Second question, what happen if i work on premiere pro with differents audio sample rate files, which sample rate settings should i chose in the soudcard settings to have no lags?

3rd question , why the Asio driver doesnt work at the same time for premiere pro and Reaper, why i have to select MME in premiere audio hardware settings if i am not using the integrated soundcard of my motherboard?

I feel like this asio driver is not capable to run multi apps at the same time, sometime the driver stops working in Reaper and i have to close premiere pro and repaer then restart reaper and premiere, and even when im doing that's "unstable", shoud i use ASIO4ALL instead or anything else ?

thank you.

My pc

Ryzen 1700x

32 gb DDR4 ram 2933 Mhz

Os and Apps installed on a NVME

2 SSD set on raid 0 for media files

1 SSD dedicated to cache

1 Gtx 1060

Report · May 01, 2018

Yes, generally ASIO drivers are designed to just work with one audio source and one audio destination software at any one time. You cannot normally have two DAWs sharing the same audio interface and it's ASIO driver. Switching Premiere to MME will get round that problem since the audio is fed via a different route through the OS.

Also Premiere, since it is a video NLE editing system, will always try to work at 48kHz sample rate which is the standard for all video. If you try to run with an audio interface at different sample rates then it will have to try to sample rate convert the audio which is probably what causes your lagging. Why do you have to use 192kHz for Reaper? It won't gain you anything except larger audio files.

However, having said all of the above, this is really the wrong forum that you have posted too since this one is for Audition, Adobe's audio editing software. you would do better posting in either the Premiere forum or Reaper's..

Report · May 01, 2018

Thank you Ryclark for your quick answer !

I didnt know that ASIO was designed to work with one audio source only, so i understand now ! What can be the best solution if i still want to use my sound card and use Premiere pro and Reaper at the same time ?

Switching Premiere to MME will get round that problem since the audio is fed via a different route through the OS.

okay got it !

Also Premiere, since it is a video NLE editing system, will always try to work at 48kHz sample rate which is the standard for all video. If you try to run with an audio interface at different sample rates then it will have to try to sample rate convert the audio which is probably what causes your lagging.

okay i suppose that is the reason so.

Why do you have to use 192kHz for Reaper? It won't gain you anything except larger audio files.

I wanted to be able to listen the sound i compose at the best quality possible.

However, having said all of the above, this is really the wrong forum that you have posted too since this one is for Audition, Adobe's audio editing software. you would do better posting in either the Premiere forum or Reaper's..

I First posted on the premiere pro forum and a Moderator told me that posting here would be more appropriated, so i did it.

Report · May 02, 2018

michelr59529068 wrote
Why do you have to use 192kHz for Reaper? It won't gain you anything except larger audio files.
I wanted to be able to listen the sound i compose at the best quality possible.

It won't make any difference to the quality of what you hear using a sample rate of 192kHz since the human ear even in a young person can't hear above about 20kHz. You would need to be a bat to hear anything extra.

Working at 192 kHz gives you multiple problems, as you have discovered, including audio files four times as large as is necessary, extra processing required for applying effects and mixing and difficulties with synchronising different audio software.

Report · May 02, 2018

Hey Ryclark thank you again for the answer, when i listen sound at 48 khz instead of 192khz, it seems more saturated, but it might be juste a feeling and its not that important. I was not expecting that the process to convert the audio signal to a better sample rate could produce lags in premiere , i thought my pc would have handle this easily.

I work in 48 khz and everytrhing is fine now.

But i still have to solve the problem with asio and find a viable alternative, because i am working at the same time with premiere and reaper.

Report · May 03, 2018

If you're working with Windows, try Voicemeeter or JACK (Jack Audio Connection Kit) to be able to use ASIO drivers across DAWs / software simultaneously.