Comment agrandir visuellement la forme d'onde sans augmenter le volume d'audition

Report · May 04, 2017

Je fais un mixage de sons ; J'ai des fichiers sons que je voudrais synchroniser d'après la forme d'onde qui s'affiche dans le multipiste. Je n'arrive pas à agrandir visuellement les formes d'ondes visuellement et elles sont beaucoup trop petites pour le visualiser ! comment puis-je les agrandir sans augmenter le volume d'audition (gain ou Db) ?

Report · May 04, 2017

Please post the name of the program you use so a Moderator may move this message

A program would be Audition or Premiere Pro or ???

Report · May 08, 2017

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Report · May 15, 2017

Moving to Audition CS5.5, CS6 & CC

Report · May 15, 2017

You can Zoom into the horizontal audio waveform by several methods.

1. You can right click and drag the Magnifier icon on the Time bar at the top of the screen.

2. You can use the default keyboard shortcut keys of = or -

3. Hold Control key and use the mouse scroll wheel.

If you wish to extend the height of the audio waveform in the Multitrack view you have to extend the height of the audio track that you want to see.

1. Right click on the coloured bar on the right of the track and again use the Magnify icon or the drop down menu.

2. You can use default keyboard shortcuts of Alt+= or Alt+-.

3. Hold Alt key and use mouse scroll wheel.

Vous pouvez zoomer dans la forme d’onde audio horizontale par plusieurs méthodes.

1. vous pouvez faites un clic droit et faites glisser l’icône de loupe dans la barre de temps en haut de l’écran.

2. vous pouvez utiliser les touches de raccourci clavier par défaut de = ou -

3. Maintenez la touche Contrôle enfoncée et utilisez la molette de la souris.

Si vous souhaitez prolonger la hauteur de la forme d’onde audio dans la vue Multipiste, vous devrez étendre la hauteur de la piste audio que vous souhaitez voir.

1. faites un clic droit sur la barre colorée sur la droite de la piste et à nouveau utiliser l’icône de la loupe ou le menu déroulant.

2. vous pouvez utiliser les raccourcis clavier par défaut de Alt += ou Alt +-.

3. Maintenez la touche Alt enfoncée et utilisez la molette de défilement de la souris.

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Report · May 15, 2017

merci pour la réponse , mais ça ne correspond pas à ce que j'aimerais obtenir :

Je sais qu'en agrandissant la bande multipiste de haut en bas, évidemment l'onde va aussi s'agrandir proportionnellement ... mais une fois redevenue plus petite, elle se réduit à nouveau ! or j'ai justement besoin de synchroniser 7 pistes ... et si je n'ai pas des ondes plus larges qui m'indiquent le début de chaque son de la piste , je n'arrive pas à les synchroniser : je n'arrive pas à mettre 7 pistes très larges sur mon écran !!! c'est pourquoi c'est l'onde elle seule qu'il faut élargir de haut en bas , et sans augmenter le volume ; c'est ça que je n'arrive pas à faire.

L'outil loupe disparait dès que j'ai lâché la souris , et il sert tout juste à élargir le temps de gauche à droite , pas la hauteur de l'onde dessinée sur la piste.

Report · May 15, 2017

I don't know how to formulate correctly my question in english ! and there is no answer to this in the aswers already existing

Report · May 15, 2017

Oh, I understand what you are saying - but I have to ask you why the waveforms are so small? And why are you worried about having them at a greater amplitude if you are going to do a mix? It is only the relative levels that matter, after all. At some stage you are going to have to increase the levels anyway, so why not do it at this stage?

Report · May 15, 2017

Also you could zoom the height in one track to see the waveform and place a Marker at the point you want to sync to. Then you can zoom out of that track and zoom into another and use the Marker line to move this audio to the same sync point. That is what I sometimes do if I need to sync audio tracks which may start very quietly.

Report · May 16, 2017

thank you again ... BUT !

of course these answers are a possible solutions , but they need more manipulations ...

In fact, there is a way to do it simply and I saw it with a friend while we explored Audition , but we both forgot how we did it !!! So I really would like to find it back .

Why the original volume is low is because it is a transcription of an orchestral piece (accompanyment of an air of an opera with a singer) with very soft dynamics : sometimes ppp or pp - soundtracks coming from midi files of the sibelius software where I composed the music. I would like to use it as an accompanyment to record a singer . Alas , each of these files start its tranfer from te moment when there is a sound , and some instruments do'nt start playing at the beginning of the piece. So everything is displaced after import.

If I higher the level , I will then need to reduce it again ... seven times (each track) = 14 manipulations ... aren't you also looking for comfort and rapidity ?

Report · May 16, 2017

fannyt89229120 wrote
In fact, there is a way to do it simply and I saw it with a friend while we explored Audition , but we both forgot how we did it !!! So I really would like to find it back .

The only way you can do this only works in Waveform view, not in Multitrack. If you hold the mouse over the amplitude scale on the right hand side of the waveform and use the scroll wheel, you can increase the size of the waveform without altering the actual amplitude of the sound. But as I said, not in Multitrack. In Multitrack this simply isn't possible; you can only alter the size of a waveform by reducing the number of visible tracks.

aren't you also looking for comfort and rapidity ?

That's what the automation system is for...

Report · May 16, 2017

As I mentioned take one track that starts from the beginning, zoom into that one and put markers onto it where the other different tracks come in. You can also set the Timeline in Audition to Bars & Beats instead of time. Since your audio files came from MIDI you should know the tempo which you can set in Audition and it will probably be constant. Then you just move your other instrument tracks' audio clips to the Markers and Bars/Beats where you know they are supposed to start and they all be in sync without having to zoom into the height of each track

Report · May 17, 2017

I know all these tricks to arrange the problem ... I spent already hours that way ! It's now nearly correct , but I am not going to spend so much time for my whole opera.

I am just looking for a way to

agrandir visuellement la forme d'onde sans augmenter le volume entendu

and as I said , I did it once : so it is possible in the program AUDITION ... but I forgot how to do it .

Obviously nobody knows on this forum how to do it .

Report · May 17, 2017

fannyt89229120 wrote

I am just looking for a way to

Comment agrandir visuellement la forme d'onde sans augmenter le volume d'audition

and as I said , I did it once : so it is possible in the program AUDITION ... but I forgot how to do it .
Obviously nobody knows on this forum how to do it .

I told you the answer above, and it is absolutely correct.

The other people who look at these threads are the developers, and if they haven't come up with an answer (which they clearly haven't), then you can bet your life there isn't one.

Report · May 18, 2017

OK Steve ! I never bet in my life... so I'll still wait . If nobody gives me a wright answer by the end of may , then I will try another software (Cubase for ex.) to continue my work for the rest of my composition.

Another "trick" could also be to give a "sound" one bar before the beginning on the 1st beat , like in a movie you make a "clap", and then erase it once the synchro is perfect.

Thank you for all the informations about the developers ... I hope they will "develop" the software in order to make it possible , if it really is not. There might be also different versions of Audition : it's possible that one can make it , and others cannot ?

Report · May 19, 2017

fannyt89229120 wrote
If nobody gives me a wright answer by the end of may , then I will try another software (Cubase for ex.) to continue my work for the rest of my composition.

You've already had the correct answer.

Report · May 19, 2017

I am sorry ... when and where ? all the answers say it's IMPOSSIBLE in the multitrack , or give only "solutions de rechange"

I cannot move to CS5.5, CS6 & CC because I am not connected to internet on the computer I am using

Report · May 19, 2017

fannyt89229120 wrote
all the answers say it's IMPOSSIBLE in the multitrack , or give only "solutions de rechange"

That is because all of your protestations, it is. You can only alter the waveform display visually in Waveform view. In Multitrack, you can only make waveforms bigger by expanding the individual track size, which removes everything else from the display. I should point out that at least two of the developers have almost certainly looked at this thread recently, and if there was a way of doing it, they would know. And they haven't commented...

Report · May 19, 2017

yes, that's exactely what I say : nobody knows how to do it , and some say IT'S IMPOSSIBLE IN THE MULTITRACK

To synchronize my tracks, I need to do it in the multitrack , not in the waveform !

Still awaiting for a correct answer

Moreover, anytime I am expanding all the multitrack , the upper track 1 (or even more) disappear on the top and the size has to be reset in order to see all the 7 tracks : very unconvenient

Cubase seems the right solution if nobody can help me.

PS/ I guess "protestations" doesn't mean the same in English as "protestations" in French ???

Do you protest because I do not believe you when you say IT'S IMPOSSIBLE ?

Report · May 19, 2017

Do you protest because I do not believe you when you say IT'S IMPOSSIBLE ?

Yes. Do you not know what impossible means? In this case it means that somebody who's been using the software in every state it's ever been in for about the last 20 years, and who actually knows it rather better than you do, says that presently, there is no possibility of doing it. And this is not a view being contradicted by ANYBODY. Do you not get it?

Report · May 19, 2017

I don't care if you protest ...

in French we say :

IMPOSSIBLE N'EST PAS FRANCAIS

You can claim what you want Steve, I did it once 2 weeks ago but cannot remember how

So , I will still be awaiting that someone who has been working with Audition since 21 years gives me an answer.

Bye bye Steve, you didn't help and are becoming outrageous since you don't believe me.

Report · May 19, 2017

fannyt89229120 wrote
So , I will still be awaiting that someone who has been working with Audition since 21 years gives me an answer.

Don't hold your breath, then...

Report · May 19, 2017

fannyt89229120 wrote
and some say IT'S IMPOSSIBLE IN THE MULTITRACK
To synchronize my tracks, I need to do it in the multitrack ,

There are plenty of ways to synchronise tracks in Audition in the Multitrack view. We all do it all the time. But not just the way that you are trying to do it.

There are coupled of things that would have helped to make it easier when you rendered out the audio tracks from your MIDI tracks in Sibelius.

In Sibelius render out a fully mixed audio file of all the parts together as a guide track for use in Audition to synchronise all your individual instrument tracks to. It doesn't matter that the mix isn't correct. And you can amplify that audio track as much as you like to see the quiet passages without changing any of the individual tracks that you want to use later in the mix. After everything is in sync you can mute that track.
When you render the individual instrument parts from Sibelius make sure that you render the complete track from Bar 1 including any silent rests before that part comes in. That way all the individual audio files will start from the same place and be easy to place into Audition and automatically be in sync.

Report · May 11, 2017

il s'agit du programme AUDITION

j'ai cherché partout et je n'arrive pas à trouver une réponse à ma question ! cela doit être simple pourtant ...

Fanny

Report · May 13, 2017

Ma réponse n'est pas du tout résolue ! je suis très pressée de trouver une solution, car j'ai un travail à réaliser et je dois le terminer fin mai ! il s'agit du programme " audition " dans la suite adobe créative