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Help needed: separating multiple stereo tracks to mono tracks while preserving edits

Explorer ,
May 01, 2018 May 01, 2018

Wow...  After following the path listed on the Adobe site to get phone-based help with "How to's" I was told by a phone support analyst that Adobe no longer offers any phone support outside of installation, bugs & break/fix (Thanks Adobe - way to stand behind your product... NOT), and he even said that their phone calls were recorded and reviewed so he'd get in trouble if he helped me actually USE the software I'm paying for.  I remember a time when companies actually cared and supported the software they wrote when users needed help - especially media editing software whose projects are usually on a tight deadline.  Those were the days...

So, since apparently there's no such thing as Adobe phone support anymore I suppose I'll post here to see if someone can help me get through this even with the deadline.  Here goes:

I have a project that I created and edited in Audition CC 2018 for Mac and then once back in the studio I opened it in Audition CC 2018 for Windows but all was not the same:

Several tracks that I'd converted from stereo into multiple mono tracks on original import now showed up on Windows as stereo again.  There were many edits (ripple deletes, moves, crossfades, envelope changes, etc.) that had been made prior to me opening the session in Windows and to be honest, I didn't notice the system faux pas (return to stereo tracks) until after having made several more edits and now the stereo tracks that need to be mono are getting in the way of critical production needs.  The content material is a 4-hour audio presentation made up of 4 channels that were originally recorded on a Zoom H4N Pro, which saves as 2 stereo files (even in 4-track mode.)

How - if there is any way - can I convert said stereo tracks (again) into multiple mono tracks AND PRESERVE all prior edits?

When I jump to the waveform editor on any selected clip, it opens the entire file (2+hours each) associated with being the source of the clip with NO edits in place (obviously - it's the whole file.)  This is when double-clicking on a clip in the Multitrack 'timeline' view or going through the menus, leaving me no apparent way to separate or get to the individual R/L channels of the track.  There seems no recourse outside of basically starting over from the beginning.  Surely I am missing something.

I know there's got to be a better way but none of the myriad help documents, videos, tutorials or otherwise seems to address how to do this once files have been cut into clips and/or edits have been made in the timeline/multitrack view.

Any help is GREATLY appreciated!!

And if anyone from Adobe reads this, you guys should consider removing the "How to's" option and description from Phone Support listed on the website, since Adobe offers NO use-case support.  It is very misleading and wastes serious time for both the customer and support staff.

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LEGEND ,
May 01, 2018 May 01, 2018

Which version of Audition are you running? Is it the same version on both the mac and the PC? Were the projects saved as Audition standard .sesx Multitrack sessions that opened differently on the PC? If so it may be possible to diagnose the .sesx session file to see what settings may be corrupted. If you import the session back to the Mac does it still open correctly on there?

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Explorer ,
May 01, 2018 May 01, 2018

Hi ryclark,

Thanks for the quick reply!

I am running Adobe Audition CC 2018 on both systems (it's CC after all ;-)) and interestingly enough, the thought actually hadn't occurred to me in my frustration to actually pull out the laptop and see how the session opened there (wow! yikes!).  I may have to steal that laptop tomorrow and see what I can find out.  For now, I'm rebuilding the project in the Windows version with a Thursday deadline and HOURS upon HOURS of forseeable editing time in between...

Being basically brand new to Audition (I haven't played with it much since it was Cool Edit Pro before Adobe bought it), the differences are so vast compared to ProTools, etc. that I'm used to.  I am curious about diagnosing the .sesx file directly...  please feel free to elaborate.

Thanks again!!

C

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LEGEND ,
May 02, 2018 May 02, 2018

The .sesx file holds all the instructions to Audition's Multitrack on which files to use, where they are stored, on what tracks with what effects and automation etc. So a whole description of what Audition has to do to make your project work. It will be in there that the instructions for which files are mono or stereo and what the track format is that they are imported onto. But why the session should be interpreted differently on the two OSs would need investigation. We have a session file guru who frequents this forum who may turn up, if you are lucky, and ask you to post your .sesx file to him for analysis.

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Mentor ,
May 02, 2018 May 02, 2018

@chuckhawks: I have a couple of ways to do what you need to do none of which I could easily explain in this environment and it requires some other tools I have at my disposal

Simplest thing would be for you to email me directly and we can take it from there and see if we can easily get what you need done

email me:  info at aatranslator dot com dot au

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Explorer ,
May 04, 2018 May 04, 2018

Thanks all for the input and generous offers of support!

Sorry it's taken me several days to get back here... with the deadline of my project looming over me, I ended up scraping the existing session in Audition and starting over with reimporting all the media as single/mono tracks.  Which led me down the path of a 36+ hour continuous editing "day" to meet my deadline including the Premiere Pro work that also needed to be done on the project.  Ugh...

I swear, it seems like Adobe intentionally makes this stuff difficult.  I paid for a full CC year subscription and I love Photoshop and Acrobat but man, Davinci Resolve and ProTools seem so much easier and more reliable for their respective functions.  Well, OK; nothing Avid is ever easy but it's more familiar to me anyway since I've been using their products for over 20 years.

Anyway, I REALLY appreciate you guys pitching in to help me!!  That's one great thing about CC - the forum!

That project's now behind me so I suppose I'll pull out some less critical content and continue to play with Audition and Premiere as I can to become more familiar (and uncover more of Adobe's insanity LOL - Cool Edit Pro was SO much better at what it did for its time; just sayin').

Cheers,

C

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Mentor ,
May 05, 2018 May 05, 2018
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Either way the offer still stands 😉

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Community Expert ,
May 02, 2018 May 02, 2018

Not very elegant but you could duplicate all the clips on to higher tracks and use the mixer effect to produce one lot as track 1 and the other as track 2

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