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HUI Mixer to control faders

New Here ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

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A simple question. I'd like to get the feel of real faders with audition so am thinking of buying something like an X-Touch. But before I spend the money, I was just wondering if I could mock up the "experience" by using MIDI control with one of my Yahama sound desks in Remote mode? I don't know the first thing about this, so do I simply connect up a pair of MIDI cables to my Focusrite sound card (IN to OUT and OUT to IN???)

What else do I need to know!

If I do spend some money - what would people recommend as the best unit (I dont want to spend more than £500). It would be great to have control of about 8 faders and have jog/shuttle transport controls.

Many thanks in advance

Matt

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Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

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I'm afraid that all attempts that at least two of us have made to get Yamaha mixers to control Audition have failed - miserably. Whilst we think that technically, it ought to be possible we've not seen any patch software or anything - nobody appears to be interested at all. So I, at least, have given up. let's see what Bob says...

If you want some ideas though, have a look at this:

Using Control Surfaces in the Audio Workflow with Audition CS6 - YouTube

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LEGEND ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

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Has anyone tried again since HUI protocol has been added to Audition CC2018?

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Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

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No, but I might, as I haven't tried recently! In principle, you set it to the ProTools setting (this is supposed to use HUI) and it should work. Whether it actually will is another matter altogether though. Just in case you're wondering, this is with an 01V96 (the original version).

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New Here ,
Nov 08, 2017 Nov 08, 2017

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Well - I’ll give it a few hours of playing about before I totally give up! Silly question - but any starting help would be appreciated. Do I simply need TWO midi cables and do I plug in to out and out to in-between the. Soundcard and Yamaha desk?

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Nov 09, 2017 Nov 09, 2017

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Personally I'd only want to use the USB port - doing this via the MIDI cables is going to be s l o w e r....

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New Here ,
Nov 09, 2017 Nov 09, 2017

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Absolutely - but I'd just like to have a play first if possible with any exciting hardware I have to see if I like the feel. i've had a look online and I'm amazed at how many HUI's do not mention Audition! Is this because they don't work in Audition - or just because it's overlooked. A lot of them say "Mackie control protocol" so I'm hoping that means it will work - but will all the other buttons work (SOLO, MUTE, transport etc). I quite like the Behringer X-Touch so far - if it is compatible!

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Nov 09, 2017 Nov 09, 2017

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They aren't mentioned simply because HUI wasn't available as a protocol until relatively recently. Doesn't by any means mean that they are going to work, though, if past experience is anything to go by.

I realise that this might sound a bit negative, but I really don't want to get your hopes up, only to have them dashed against against an 'incompatible' wall. And due to other commitments, I don't have time to think about trying this for at least a fortnight...

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 24, 2018 Oct 24, 2018

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HI!

Are there any news in this? I would very much like to use an X-touch with both Audition and Premiere Pro.

Best regards / Marcus

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Community Expert ,
Oct 24, 2018 Oct 24, 2018

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You might want to read this thread: Behringer X Touch w/ Adobe Audition

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 24, 2018 Oct 24, 2018

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Thank you for the suggested link. I had read the post but I am still to learn what functionality is available in PP and in Audition when using the X-touch. It seems no posts on forums or on YouTube describes how it works. Can I adjust EQ with the X-touch? Can I use transport functionality? Trans write automation? Lots of posts are available for other softwares but little on Adobe CC.

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LEGEND ,
Oct 25, 2018 Oct 25, 2018

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Unless anybody else has used this combination you are unlikely to get many answers I'm afraid. You may have to be the guinea pig.

Look at how some of the other DAWs work with the X Touch to see what they can do. The Mackie protocol is fairly fixed so if another DAW can do it so should Audition be able to. Have you tried it with Audition? If you have managed to add it to Audition's Control Surface preferences page you should be able to get some idea from the button assignment editor what is available. certainly basic faders and transport controls would work I would think.

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Aug 21, 2020 Aug 21, 2020

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So far, adobe has failed in the preparation for the standard 'Surface Control', while other DAWs have advanced in this regard. Note that too many users are waiting for the news that Adobe has been able to handle this issue.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 22, 2020 Aug 22, 2020

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There's no such concept as a 'standard surface control'. Audition works fine with, and provides interfaces for, EUCON, Presonus fader port, HUI and Mackie standards. If anything is failing, it's the controller manufacturers, not Adobe.

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Participant ,
Aug 22, 2020 Aug 22, 2020

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This isn't true. Adobe fails to recognize many of the standard MC commands. 

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Aug 22, 2020 Aug 22, 2020

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Fine words butter no parsnips - details, please and we'll pass it on.

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