Spectral pitch display

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Aug 31, 2020 Aug 31, 2020

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Hello.

I can't find in Audition documents and help information about "Spectral pitch display" (Menu\View\Show Spectral Pitch Display).

Can you help?

 

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Sep 02, 2020 Sep 02, 2020

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Sep 02, 2020 Sep 02, 2020

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You are wrong, johnm8812866. The question there is about "Spectral pitch display", however, the main answer mistakenly about "Spectral Frequency Display". What and how is depicted on the Spectral Pitch Display, how to interpret colors, lines, what conclusions can be drawn from this about sound, how and in what operations of sound processing it can be used, etc. Strange, Adobe doesn't say a word about this in online materials.

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Sep 03, 2020 Sep 03, 2020

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The reason that there is nothing to read about it is that from an editing point of view, it's useless - doesn't tell you anything at all really. It's an anachronism that doesn't need to be there.

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Sep 03, 2020 Sep 03, 2020

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To elaborate on this slightly - you will note that if you select it, all of the editing tools are greyed out. This is because it's not possible to select anything meaningful from the display at all. All it will do is display an instantaneous pitch level that it thinks is the predominant one (generally it isn't) and a limited resolution spectral frequency display.

 

It's not very often I can say that something in Audition is completely useless, but this pretty much is, I'm afraid. Indeed I'd be quite intrigued if anybody could give me a single legitimate use for it, because I can't think of one.

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So, you (Adobe Professional) also cannot provide a link to the information I am asking about. I believe that any program feature or presentation of information should be described in high-quality reference information.
Regarding the use of SPD - having sufficient accuracy, it can be used to determine the characteristics of some musical instruments, for example, bells. See attached example: bells sound like a chord of several tones, each of which pulses at a specific frequency. Tibetan singing bowls and some other instruments behave in a similar way.

By the way, some time ago I read a rather informative description of SPD, maybe not in English and made by non-Adobe experts. Unfortunately, I can't find it now ..Спектры_1-4.jpg

 

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Sep 04, 2020 Sep 04, 2020

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It doesn't determine the characteristics of a sound at all. It provides some little blue lines that in the context of a harmonic-rich sound are meaningless. If you want to analyse the harmonic content, and its relative levels, of a sound you use either the spectral frequency response display, or the Frequency Analysis window. With those bells, in the Frequency Analysis window you would get a very clear display of the harmonics, their frequencies, and even the individual pitch values. You don't get this from the low-resolution pitch display at all.

 

And I can't provide links to what isn't there. You may believe what you like about documentation, but that doesn't alter the facts - which in this case indicate that the feature has no redeeming value, and that the documentation reflects this.

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Sep 05, 2020 Sep 05, 2020

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Okay, you convinced me: SPD is a useless undocumented feature of Adobe Audition. Its description is not and never will be.
Why not then remove it from future versions of the program?

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Sep 05, 2020 Sep 05, 2020

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I would approve of removing it, yes. Unfortunately it's not my decision...

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Jan 02, 2021 Jan 02, 2021

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Coming to this thread a little bit late after having tried unsuccessfully to find information about the pitch display.

I'm just beginning to find my way around Audition and was really excited and impressed when I saw the pitch display, I think it can help vocalists in their training. Being able to see and hear your voice when signing and being able to analyzie if you are hitting the right notes, is in my opinion a very useful feature.

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It wouldn't be a very good tool for that at all, for reasons already outlined; it's not unambiguous. If you want or need to do that, a simple instrument tuner would be a far better, and less ambiguous way to do it. And also a lot cheaper.

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