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Split multitrack timeline into separate 'songs' and apply individual effects, pan etc to each song?

Explorer ,
Oct 08, 2023 Oct 08, 2023

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Hi Team,

I have a need to apply different effects (dynamics, eq, pan etc) to a multi song live band recording. The band has 4 lead vocals/harmonies, twin electric guitars and a pair of keyboardists. Depending on which singer, guitar or keys is taking the lead, I need to pan, compress, reverb and eq each song differently but cannot work out how to apply a separate mix to each track without having to create a separate project for each song. I have found that applying changes in the mix window affects the whole timeline. I will also be dealing a multi cam live video recording which will be edited and synced with the separate multitrack audio recording. In Premiere Pro I can split the video clip and apply different colour grading and audio effects within that clip. This does not affect the clips either side. Is there a way to split a multitrack recording into separate songs and apply different effects to each song within a single timeline/project?. I hope I make sense and look forward to learning something simple and basic that everyone else takes for granted. Cheers Michael

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Oct 09, 2023 Oct 09, 2023

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You are obviously using track effects at present. On any given clip you can select whether it's a track or a clip effect you are applying. If you open the Effects Rack window with a clip selected, you can change the way any effects are applied to it at the top by selecting either clip or track effects. This will give you complete independence for each song, and have the added benefit of letting you put extra splits in a track, and let you apply different effects within a song if you need to.

 

On the basis of quite a lot of experience of syncing live music to multicamera shoots, I can tell you that by far and away the easiest way to do this is to get your audio mix sorted out first, into a final track and use this as the basis for the multicam video edit. Yes, in a way it would be great to just sync all the video and audio as recorded together and do a live mix on it, but setting it all up to work reliably could easily drive you round the bend! The other thing is that how well you can do this anyway depends upon how you've synced everything. If you've got locked timecode on all your sources then you should be able to split individual songs out, but if the audio recording is, say, clapper-synced at the start then you will lose your reference points if you edit the sound. It's always easier to get the whole thing right without cutting anything at all, and making the splits into individual songs on the final mix, after you've made it. I'll be the first to admit that this is only my take on it, but it certainly works for me, and generally saves quite a bit of edit time. And I wouldn't say that it was safe to take any of this for granted! I suppose that what it comes down to in the end is that it should be possible to run Audition and Premiere in sync with each other (I think - that was the original idea) but that's a lot of resource usage in one go - so you're going to need quite a capable machine to do it, however you look at it. And obviously you can reduce that strain if you pre-mix the audio.

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Thank you SteveG, that was the obvious answer I was seeking. The difference and application of Clip Effects and Track Effects. I am truly a newbie with Audition. I appreciate your recommendation on syncing video and audio. The audio will be a single continous timeline and each of the three cameras being used will be run continuosly. Every time to snare is hit I'll have a clapper 🙂 The video edit should be simple enough. Camera 1 will be a stage wide shot located at FOH mixing desk with desk output feed. Cams 2 and 3 will use interrnal mics. It won't sound pretty but will do the job to cut the video. Now to get home and cut up a mix I already have and apply effects to "Clips". Cheers mate, much appreciated. The gig is 18 October. I will post the results up on YouTube when it all gets done. 

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