which the best way to Eq audio without hitting the 0dB?

Report · Jul 16, 2017

hi

i have some audios , and i want to equalize them

they are already loud , but they don't hit the 0dB

how can i Eq my audios without hitting always the 0dB?

i have tried to use fft filter ,parametic equalizer & graphic equalizer , i tried even fabfilter PRO Q2 (in trial version)

i know there is a Master Gain

at the beginning i thought to normalize to lower the audio and eq and normalize it again , but is really destruttive

at the second thought i used the master gain

is the only way using the master gain in any Eq effects to avoid to hit the 0dB?

are there other way to do it?

thanks

best regards

Report · Jul 17, 2017

Usually the way to do it is to reduce the level of all the other frequencies you don't want rather than boosting the one that you want. Or as you have found do your EQ as required and then bring down the level of the whole clip with the on clip level control. Whilst editing in Audition boosting signal above 0dBFS won't harm the audio as long as you bring the level down before saving.

Report · Jul 17, 2017

Hi RyClark

Usually the way to do it is to reduce the level of all the other frequencies you don't want rather than boosting the one that you want.

what do you mean?

why should reduce the level of all the other frequencies?

it's a rock live recording , i don't want to lower the frequencies of the drums ,bass,guitar and the puplic

i want to make it more "excitated" , i mean i would like to raise the voice for all the recording ,and the guitar in part of the audio and the pubblic between songs

Or as you have found do your EQ as required and then bring down the level of the whole clip with the on clip level control

do you mean for the mastergain that i can find on every Eq audition effect?

Whilst editing in Audition boosting signal above 0dBFS won't harm the audio as long as you bring the level down before saving.

i did get you correctly i guess

do you mean that i should edit my eq and disinterest myseft boosting the signal above the 0dB ??

but i can hear the clipping

and bring the level down with the normalize?

thanks

Report · Jul 17, 2017

Aha. So you are trying to EQ an already mixed stereo track rather than individual Multitrack elements.

OK going back to your question about going over 0dBFS yes you may hear clipping because your audio interface won't be able to cope with the over levels even though Audition isn't actually clipping the audio. To temporarily get round this whilst making adjustments just reduce the master fader in your Multitrack session to bring the output levels down whilst you are setting the EQ. Afterwards you can bring down the level of the whole track by Normalising or using the track gain control to reduce the level sufficiently to get it where you want it.

Alternatively reduce the level in the track by an approximate amount to give you sufficient headroom for making your EQ adjustments.

Or to give your track more excitement you could try Effects/Special/Mastering which will allow you to EQ, Excite, Adjust level and Loudness Maximiser all in the one effect.

Report · Jul 17, 2017

Hi RyClark

To temporarily get round this whilst making adjustments just reduce the master fader in your Multitrack session to bring the output levels down whilst you are setting the EQ

Well , so i have to work in multi track mode , i was working in waveform mode

so if i got it

1) insert my audio in multi track , i will work only track 1 yes?

2) add in the fx my Eq effect and i edit how i want to EQ my audio

3) click on mixer ->track 1 -> lower the master fader (the master fader sould be the screenshot with the right arrow right?

sorry but my english is really poor

Or to give your track more excitement you could try Effects/Special/Mastering which will allow you to EQ, Excite, Adjust level and Loudness Maximiser all in the one effect.

great imput

thanks RyClark

Report · Jul 18, 2017

You don't have to work in Multitrack mode. But you didn't explain in your original question exactly which mode you were working in. And you mentioned the Master Gain control which is normally part of the Multitrack view.

But stick with the Waveform edit view if that is what you are used to doing. And if you find that your EQ is raising the level too far just use the on screen Gain control to reduce the level of the audio. You can always Normalise the audio again when you have the EQ correct. Do try the Mastering plugin though.

Report · Jul 18, 2017

hi ryclark

sorry let's be clear

1) for master gain i mean the master gain included in the effect for example parametric equalizer ,if you look at the left you can see the master gain slider

minute 2:13 you can see the master gain i'm talking about

2) and you give me some good point maybe the multi track is more flexible

ryclark just a question , if you want to equalize (without lowering other frequencies) and you hear you are hitting the 0dB and you hear clipping , what do you do ? i mean how do you perform this task

maybe it's better so i can read and lear

thanks ryclark

Report · Jul 18, 2017

OK I am still confused as to which view you are working in in Audition? But yes that Master level control is the one to use to compensate for any increase in level you make by raising any frequency in the Parametric EQ.

You don't hear that you are hitting '0dB' you see it on the meters. If you see the level going up too much on the meters you use a Gain control somewhere in Audition to reduce the level. In your case the Master level control in the Parametric EQ effect. The audio won't clip if it never goes into the red 0dBFS.

Report · Jul 19, 2017

i agree, gain slider or normalize is the easiest way. you can also try limiters and compressors if you want to get creative.

also, it sounds like you do this a lot, perhaps har-bal audio software would be easier. it will automatically adjust volume to freq adjustment so you don't have to push and pull every time.

Report · Jul 20, 2017

hi

thanks

i have recoreder a live

and it's pretty nice loud

agree, gain slider or normalize is the easiest way. you can also try limiters and compressors if you want to get creative.

thanks for the information

by the way are there tutorial videos or sites or forums to learn to perform tasks , in this case a simple task just EQ, but that can be just problematic in same case

Report · Jul 20, 2017

As others have said, you can either use the master fader down to give yourself plenty of headroom, do your EQ, then raise the fader until just before you go into distortion. Similarly, you can Normalist downwards, do your EQ then normalise upwards again. Normalise doesn[t change or harm your audio in any way. It just adjusts the level in a controllable way.

However, one other thing to say...it's all to easy to get in the habit of using EQ to raise levels on frequencies you think you need more of, thereby risking clipping. It's often better to LOWER levels on any problem frequencies that are drowning out the ones you want more of. This can actually work better quite often. (and you can normalise or push up the master at the end of it if your levels have gone too low.

Report · Jul 20, 2017

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Bob+Howes wrote
However, one other thing to say...it's all to easy to get in the habit of using EQ to raise levels on frequencies you think you need more of, thereby risking clipping. It's often better to LOWER levels on any problem frequencies that are drowning out the ones you want more of. This can actually work better quite often. (and you can normalise or push up the master at the end of it if your levels have gone too low.

That's what I said in the first reply above to the OP.

Report · Jul 20, 2017

Hi Bob

Similarly, you can Normalist downwards

i have always tought the normalize or maximize the volume is destructive process

It's often better to LOWER levels on any problem frequencies that are drowning out the ones you want more of. This can actually work better quite often

yes i'm starting to try it

the point is lower the frequencies where i haven't audio ( i mean where i there is not frequencies of vocals,guitar,keyboard,bass ,drums and "plublic ") , right? and raise the others

I 'm using the trial version of fabfilter q2 (amazing plugin!!!) sadly expansive 149€

but in this case i don't know if with fabfilter q2 i can hear only frequencies without audio that i don't need

ps Bob thank you so much for your kindness , may i know which are your favorite plugins ? or which have you installed?

Thanks BOB