Bridge output into DxO Optics Pro

[cherft]

Hello

I import my RAW camera images into Bridge CC 2017, to triage my files and then provide shoot-specific Metadata and Keywords (batch processed). Bridge appears to save these changes into an .xmp file.

How do I get my Bridge processed file into DxO Optics Pro 10? If I click on the original RAW file, it does not have the Bridge changes just applied.

(I run a 64-bit Windows 10 PC CC and DxO10)

Would appreciate a bit of help on this.

thanks and regards

Chris

[Sahil.Chawla]

Hi Chris,

All the edits and metadata is stored in the XMP files, that is why the raw file is not showing the changes that are applied by you.

You can convert your raw file to DNG format (Which also a raw format designed by Adobe and it does not use XMP to store information) then apply changes to the metadata.

Please let us know if it helps.

Regards,

Sahil

[cherft]

hi Sahil

Appreciate your response.

So, to apply this suggestion, what i need to do is?:

- import my files from my camera into Bridge, CONVERTING THEM TO DNG

- apply some basic file handling in Br, then some basic editing such as

Crop and Straighten (so these changes will be stored in the DNG file)

- open the selected DNG files in Lightroom - using the DxO plugin in Lr

- process some basic DxO de-noising the pass back the DNG back to Lr

- continue with Lr and Ps as needed

I understand some of this is not your area (DxO) but if you have any

observations, I'd appreciate hearing from you.

DxO support separately advises that DxO "only" will work with the original

out of camera RAW files and I think this is an awful restriction. Does

DNG=RAW?

thank you in advance

Cheers

Chris

[Stephen Marsh · Accepted solution]

DNG is a container, it can hold raw or rendered data. There is more than one way to store the original data.

The real question is can DxO process DNG files that contain raw camera data?

In Bridge, are you using XMP sidecar files, or storing edits to the Camera Raw database? If you have Lightroom, do you really need to use Bridge?

Some cameras save the raw sensor data into DNG as a native format, however most camera makers persist/insist in using their own proprietary formats (CR2, NEF, ORF etc).

I think that you may need to re-examine your workflow, as there will probably be incompatibilities with your desired workflow and you will need to work out where/how you are going to introduce your various image processing steps in different software.

Good luck!

[cherft]

thank you Stephen and Sahil

Yes, I will need to re-think my workflow. I hopefully will get admitted to a set of post-processing tutorials. I do note that there are strong differences and preferences in "expert's" workflow and I am hopelessly confused.

(I have licences for Br-Cr-Lr-Ps , DxO and Nik. and Topaz. What a mess I have made for myself)

Shall soldier on!

Cheers

Chris

[cherft]

Hello Stephen

I have to return to this question again, in a modified way. The title is now "Lightroom output into DxO"

I now import all my raw files (ARWs) into Lightroom as DNGs.

I then make a cull, and do some initial edits (e.g. Crop, straighten, WB, exposure) so I have a small selection to do more work on.

Then I go to the Lr Develop Module, select my short-listed images and transfer these DNG files to DxO (File->Plug-in Extras->Transfer to DxO OpticsPro 10)

They open in DxO, but have not got any of the Lr edits.

So it looks like, where Bridge uses a sidecar that DxO ignores, Lightroom uses maybe a catalogue that DxO ignores as well.

I suspect again it is my workflow at fault here and that I will need to modify the order in which I do things and where.

Any feedback would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Chris

[Stephen Marsh]

Unlike proprietary raw formats, it is possible to write metadata to DNG files using Adobe apps…

However even if you are saving metadata into the DNG files, I am guessing that third party software will not understand the Adobe raw editing metadata. You will likely have to render the raw files into a processed format such as TIFF if you wish to continue the workflow elsewhere.

Not having access to DxO this is just a guess.

[cherft]

thanks for taking the time, Stephen. I'll keep looking for a solution,

then. Possibly a question to DxO themselves, as they are the ones using the

Lr interface.

All the best

Chris

[cherft]

thank you Sahil and Stephen

Yes, I will need to re-think my workflow. I hopefully will get admitted to a set of post-processing tutorials. I do note that there are strong differences and preferences in "expert's" workflows and I am hopelessly confused.

(I have licences for Br-Cr-Lr-Ps , DxO and Nik. and Topaz. What a mess I have made for myself)

Shall soldier on!

Cheers

Chris