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Where to permanently enable caption view in fullscreen?

Engaged ,
Sep 14, 2023 Sep 14, 2023

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Hi guys, reading the What's new popping up, I expected that to be better as in older versions but it isn't.

In media res:

  1. Can I activated that to be shown permanently? Couldn't find anything in the Bride settings. If there is a shortcut, why it isn't mentioned?
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  2. If there is no star rating, colour labels are randomly shown in fullscreen
  3. Colour labels of LrC and Bridge still do not match. That's an issues I never understood. Instead of having values "behind the scenes" colour lables are by default in LrC Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, whereas in Bridge they are by default called Rejected, Review, Approved, Second, To Do. They are used literally, so if you work in LrC and Bridge as I do, that never matches. - The problem: they only can be changed in the Bridge settings but nowhere in LrC. Changing them in the Bridge settings is NO GO, because Bridge is used to exchange edits professionally international, that would be a disaster. As good the AI functions are, if it comes to trivial stuff, I always think at Adobe the left hand doesn't know what the right one is doing (that's a saying in German). I developed software for 35 years, normally you use a constant index value for stuff like that, e.g. 6,7,8,9,10 for that and relate it to a free naming in the user intreface. Not so at Adobe, there is the plain text literally used. The problems advance if you go international, in German e.g. Rejected is Abgelehnt. The next mess ahead. Also in LrC, where Red is Rot in German or Yellow is Geld. That never matches. This is just ultra bad style of software development and causes a lot of problem not existing if the developers would ever have been working properly.
  4. The performance is again incredibly bad with the current 2024 versions. I'm usindg an MBA M1 fully equipped, it has at least felt 10 x more performance as my prior Mac, a max. equipped 2019 Intel MBP16. Except for Adobe software, everything else such as Affinity Photo, Capture 1, FCP, DaVinci Resolve travel at Warp 8. In comparison, Adobe Software doesn't even touch 0.000001% speed of light.

 

OK, guys, that's sufficient of daily dose of rant 😉 I wish you merry stuff fixing.

 

Have a nice one,

Roland

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Sep 14, 2023 Sep 14, 2023

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You can change the label values in LrC to match Bridge.

 

Metadata > Color Label Set

 

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Of course, there is still the language barrier, e.g. Rejected vs. Abgelehnt.

 

This will not give you any comfort, but the XMP specification has a very ambiguous definition for xmp:Label which does not assure interoperability:

"A word or short phrase that identifies a resource as a member of a user-defined collection."

 

This is odd because it specifies xmp:Rating precisely:

"A user-assigned rating for this file. The value shall be -1 or in the range [0..5], where -1 indicates “rejected” and 0 indicates “unrated”."

 

 

 

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Oct 04, 2023 Oct 04, 2023

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Hello

Your Answer doesnt answer the first question:

How to toggle caption in full screen?

Thank you

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Oct 04, 2023 Oct 04, 2023

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In full screen preview, press "C" to see the filename, rating and label. 

 

You can change the shortcut in Preferences > Keywboard shorts > 

On the bottom left panel, scroll down to Slideshow/Full Screen Window

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Scroll to Fullscreen Specific

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[EDIT] I just remembered that your question was how to permanently enable captions in fullscreen. I don't think that is possible. You have to press "C" when you open fullscreen. At least the captions stay on as you move forwards or backwards between images.

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Engaged ,
Oct 16, 2023 Oct 16, 2023

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@gregreser  Hooray, switching that deleted/reset all color labeling of the whole catalog (150k images). Thanks you so much for your inexistent warning.

I have still no clue, why this ever was different. The XMP issue is a thing to be solved by the developers in the software itself.

PS: I have no clue why, but I can't reply directly to your anser containing the advice in screen shot attached

 

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Oct 16, 2023 Oct 16, 2023

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@Roland_Rick are you saying that changing that label preference in Lightroom actually deleted/reset the XMP label values in your files? They may not display the color you expect, but the original metadata should still be in the files.

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Engaged ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

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I'm in LrC, so it's primary the database I rely to. Even if I use my computers all with English language settings (except for the keyboard, but that's another story and concerns Ps), Creative Cloud installed all apps first in German and even after manually switching to English (in LrC settings), the labelling sticks fixed to Rot/Gelb/Grün/Blau/Lila - the German version of Red/Yellow/Green/Blue/Purple. - As nice the A.I. functions are, if it comes to the basics, Adobe's software is incredibly ridiculous bad programmed, no word exists for it.

 

If you sell overpriced multi language software, this must be correctly covered by the software itself - that is covered by the course "software developpment 101". It can't be covered by XMP is kinda logical, there values should be integer indexes instead of plain text, those matched by the language settings of LrC/Bridge/Ps/etc. to the corresponding plain text value. That's also covered by the course  "Software Development for Beginners 101".

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So, I had to make my own preset to have the label colors back correctly. But that doesn't solve the problem as soon you collaborate in projects internationally and you exchange data Bridge/XMP based. ☹️

 

If I would be in lead of the Adobe software development, errors like that wouldn't exists. And yes, it's an error, software design error, not bugs. A bug is something like an accident happened. But that is basically worst software development style ever. Not sticking to any basic development rules. 

 

I developped software between 1986 to 1999 (BIOS add ons for mouse and menus for international used DOS software plus the mathematical part, prior to a usable Windows version, later for Windows 3.x, first in with Turbo Pascal and later with Borland Pascal), when the engineers still were in lead of the project milestones. Never ever back then, we would have been releasing software having such trivial design errors causing those gigantic follow up problems. Nowadays, the milestones and decisions are made by clueless pea counters in suits and that's the problem.

 

But that's a problem everywhere - not only at Adobe and other software companies - and the reason why the planet is going down the drain.

 

Cheers

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