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How to Edit Capture Time With TIFF Images?

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Oct 23, 2018

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In the "What's New" article for your new Oct 2018 version 9 of Adobe Bridge, it states that:

"Adobe Bridge now lets you change the capture time of the JPEG and RAW image files, just like the way it is done in Adobe Lightroom."

I have a massive collection of photographs I've scanned on a flatbed scanner and saved in the .TIFF format. When I load these into the new version of Bridge and go to use this "Edit Capture Time," it's always grayed out and I can't select it.

Question: Are we really only allowed to edit the capture time of JPEG and RAW images, or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for any help!

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How to Edit Capture Time With TIFF Images?

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In the "What's New" article for your new Oct 2018 version 9 of Adobe Bridge, it states that:

"Adobe Bridge now lets you change the capture time of the JPEG and RAW image files, just like the way it is done in Adobe Lightroom."

I have a massive collection of photographs I've scanned on a flatbed scanner and saved in the .TIFF format. When I load these into the new version of Bridge and go to use this "Edit Capture Time," it's always grayed out and I can't select it.

Question: Are we really only allowed to edit the capture time of JPEG and RAW images, or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for any help!

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Oct 23, 2018

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I believe the change capture time only works with images that are made with a camera, as scanners don't create a capture time in the metadata.

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Oct 23, 2018

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The fallback, as always with metadata, would be ExifTool…

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Oct 24, 2018

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Thanks for the referral of ExifTool Stephen. Appreciate it.

An additional application like this is certainly an option, though of course, it requires more work and deeper concentration to go back and forth from one to the other with two entirely different interfaces. And it's also certainly a lot harder for me to teach people (on my website) how to handle the whole workflow of scanning and organizing photos when you tell them how many different pieces of software they will need to acquire and learn to use just to do certain tasks. Their eyes just glaze over when they realize all of the additional complications.

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Oct 24, 2018

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Thanks for your reply Chuck.

I can't speak for all scanning software, but I know the very popular "Epson Scan" that comes with their line of Perfection scanners does fill in the metadata fields for shoot date and time (like a digital camera does), but since it has no clue when the content of what it's capturing was created, it fills in the field(s) with the time and date the scan was made.

You can imagine how (initially) discouraging that is when you dump a thousand or more images into a photo manager only to have none of them sort with any kind of chronological order by when the photos were taken. So, it's an expected process of course, of manually adding all of this time/date metadata so there is order.

I have a website that teaches people how to scan and organize their scanned photos and I was really hoping I could refer people to Adobe Bridge as the "gateway" product to get the feel of and learn to use before they are ready to purchase/subscribe to Lightroom CC for their photo editing needs. I know that a lot of the novice computer users that follow my website need a lot of "hand-holding" through this process, and Adobe Bridge seemed like a wonderful "all-in-one" affordable (free) solution for the organizing and metadata labeling stages of working with their scanned photographs.

Sadly, this may be a dealbreaker for me now though — as far as referring my website visitors to use it — if I have to tell my novice users they will need yet another program to go back and forth with (outside of Bridge) to add this extremely important time/date metadata — especially if I try to sell them on Bridge by saying what we all normally say, "Oh you'll love Bridge because you can enter in tons of metadata!" (but not all apparently).

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Oct 24, 2018

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Another workaround hack would be to paste the scans into an existing image shot with a camera, then you can change the capture time using Bridge. Not the speediest method.

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Oct 26, 2018

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Dear Users,

Please post this as a feature request on Adobe Bridge Feedback

Regards,

Abhishek Seth.

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Oct 29, 2018

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Alright, so with AbhishekSeth12's suggestion (above) that I make this a feature request, it appears Adobe Bridge CC 2019 for sure can't edit the "Capture Time" of a .TIFF file.

For anyone reading this thread who ALSO feels let down that their copy of Adobe Bridge can't edit your .TIFF files, please go to this link where I just added this as a feature request, and click the top left button that reads "VOTE," so this will be added to a development ticket and eventually written into the core software.

Feature Request Link:  Allow "Edit Capture Time" to Also Modify .TIFF files for Those Who Scan and Archive Old Photos! – Ad...

Thank you!

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Nov 01, 2018

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Does this script by Paul Riggott help?

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Paul-Riggott/PS-Scripts/master/Change%20CreateDate.jsx

Prepression: Downloading and Installing Adobe Scripts

#target bridge

if( BridgeTalk.appName == "bridge" ) {

var menu = MenuElement.find ('myBridgeMenu');

if (menu == null){

var newMenu = MenuElement.create( "menu", "Bridge", "before tools/ps", "myBridgeMenu" );

changeDate = MenuElement.create( "command", "Change CreateDate", "at the end of myBridgeMenu" );

}else{

  changeDate = MenuElement.create( "command", "Change CreateDate", "at the end of myBridgeMenu" );

  }

}

changeDate.onSelect = function () {

if(app.document.selectionLength == 0){

  alert("No documents are selected");

  return;

  }

thumbs= app.document.getSelection("psd, jpg, tif, dng");

thumbsRaw = app.document.getSelection("3fr,crw,cr2,tiff,raw,rw2,nef,orf,erf,mef,mos,dcr,raf,rwl,srf,sr2,pef,x3f,arw,kdc,mrw,iiq,nrw,srw");

if(thumbs.length == 0 && thumbsRaw.length == 0) {

  alert("No valid documents are selected");

  return;

  }

var win = new Window('dialog','CreateDate');

g = win.graphics;

var myBrush = g.newBrush(g.BrushType.SOLID_COLOR, [0.99, 0.99, 0.99, 1]);

var myPen =g.newPen (g.PenType.SOLID_COLOR, [0.00, 0.00, 0.00, 1],lineWidth=1);

g.backgroundColor = myBrush;

g.foregroundColor = myPen;

win.alignChildren="row";

win.g10 = win.add('group');

win.g10.orientation = "row";

win.title = win.g10.add('statictext',undefined,"Change CreateDate");

win.title.helpTip="Written by Paul Riggott";

win.title.alignment="bottom";

var g = win.title.graphics;

try{g.font = ScriptUI.newFont("Georgia","BOLDITALIC",26);

}catch(e){g.font = ScriptUI.newFont("Arial","BOLDITALIC",26);}

win.p1= win.add("panel", undefined, undefined, {borderStyle:"black"});

win.g2 =win.p1.add('group');

win.g2.orientation = "row";

win.g2.alignment="left";

win.g2.rb1 = win.g2.add('radiobutton',undefined,'Add to Date');

win.g2.rb2 = win.g2.add('radiobutton',undefined,'Subtract from Date');

win.g2.rb1.value=true;

win.g2.cb2 = win.g2.add('checkbox',undefined,'Set all dates same as createdate');

win.g2.cb2.helpTip="Non RAW files only!";

win.g3 =win.p1.add('group');

win.g3.orientation = "row";

win.g3.alignment="left";

win.g3.st1 = win.g3.add('statictext',undefined,'Weeks');

win.g3.dd1 = win.g3.add('dropdownlist');

win.g3.dd1.preferredSize=[50,20];

for(var a = 0;a<53;a++){win.g3.dd1.add('item',a);}

win.g3.dd1.selection=0;

win.g3.st2 = win.g3.add('statictext',undefined,'Days');

win.g3.dd2 = win.g3.add('dropdownlist');

win.g3.dd2.preferredSize=[50,20];

for(var a = 0;a<7;a++){win.g3.dd2.add('item',a);}

win.g3.dd2.selection=0;

win.g3.st3 = win.g3.add('statictext',undefined,'Hours');

win.g3.dd3 = win.g3.add('dropdownlist');

win.g3.dd3.preferredSize=[50,20];

for(var a = 0;a<24;a++){win.g3.dd3.add('item',a);}

win.g3.dd3.selection=0;

win.g3.st4 = win.g3.add('statictext',undefined,'Minutes');

win.g3.dd4 = win.g3.add('dropdownlist');

win.g3.dd4.preferredSize=[50,20];

for(var a = 0;a<60;a++){win.g3.dd4.add('item',a);}

win.g3.dd4.selection=0;

win.g3.st5 = win.g3.add('statictext',undefined,'Seconds');

win.g3.dd5 = win.g3.add('dropdownlist');

win.g3.dd5.preferredSize=[50,20];

for(var a = 0;a<60;a++){win.g3.dd5.add('item',a);}

win.g3.dd5.selection=0;

win.g4 =win.p1.add('group');

win.g4.orientation = "row";

win.g4.bu1 = win.g4.add('button',undefined,'Process selected files');

win.g4.bu1.preferredSize=[240,35];

win.g4.bu2 = win.g4.add('button',undefined,'Cancel');

win.g4.bu2.preferredSize=[240,35];

win.g4.bu1.onClick = function(){

try{

var sec = 1000;

var min = sec * 60;

var hour = min * 60;

var day = hour * 24;

var week = day * 7;

var changeTime = 0;

changeTime += win.g3.dd5.selection.index * sec;

changeTime += win.g3.dd4.selection.index * min;

changeTime += win.g3.dd3.selection.index * hour;

changeTime += win.g3.dd2.selection.index * day;

changeTime += win.g3.dd1.selection.index * week;

if(changeTime == 0) {

  alert("You have not selected any time!");

  win.g3.dd5.selection.active=true;

  return;

  }

win.close(0);

if (ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript == undefined) ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript = new ExternalObject("lib:AdobeXMPScript");

for(var z in thumbs){

var md = thumbs.synchronousMetadata;

md.namespace = "http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/";

var DateCreated = md.DateTimeOriginal ? new XMPDateTime(md.DateTimeOriginal.toString()).getDate().getTime() : thumbs.spec.created.getTime();

if(win.g2.rb1.value){

var newDate = DateCreated + changeTime;

}else{

  var newDate = DateCreated - changeTime;

  }

md.DateTimeOriginal ='';

md.DateTimeOriginal = new XMPDateTime(new Date(newDate));

if(win.g2.cb2.value){

  md.namespace = "http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/";

  md.DateCreated = '';

  md.DateCreated = new XMPDateTime(new Date(newDate));

  md.namespace = "http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/";

  md.CreateDate='';

  md.CreateDate = new XMPDateTime(new Date(newDate));

  md.ModifyDate='';

  md.ModifyDate = new XMPDateTime(new Date(newDate));

  md.MetadataDate='';

  md.MetadataDate= new XMPDateTime(new Date(newDate));

  }

  }

////////////// Process Raw ///////////

for(var r in thumbsRaw){

var md = thumbsRaw.synchronousMetadata;

md.namespace = "http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/";

var DateCreated = md.DateTimeOriginal ? new XMPDateTime(md.DateTimeOriginal.toString()).getDate().getTime() : thumbs.spec.created.getTime();

var Name = File(thumbsRaw.spec).name.replace(/\.[^\.]+$/, '');

var file = File(thumbsRaw.spec.path + "/" + Name + ".xmp");

  if(file.exists){

  file.open('r');

  file.encoding = "UTF8";

  file.lineFeed = "unix";

  file.open("r", "TEXT", "????");

  var xmpStr = file.read();

  file.close();

  }else{

  var xmpStr='';

  }

var xmp = new XMPMeta( xmpStr );

if(win.g2.rb1.value){

var newDate = DateCreated + changeTime;

}else{

  var newDate = DateCreated - changeTime;

  }

if( xmp.doesPropertyExist(XMPConst.NS_EXIF, "DateTimeOriginal" ) ) xmp.deleteProperty( XMPConst.NS_EXIF, "DateTimeOriginal" );

  xmp.setProperty( XMPConst.NS_EXIF, "DateTimeOriginal" ,new XMPDateTime(new Date(newDate)));

  file.open('w');

  file.encoding = "UTF8";

  file.lineFeed = "unix";

  file.write( xmp.serialize() );

  file.close();

}

}catch(e){alert(e + "\n" + e.line);}

}

var result = win.show();

if(result == 0){

app.document.chooseMenuItem("PurgeCacheForSelected");

alert("All done");

}

};

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