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Oversaturation when in camera raw.

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Jul 23, 2024 Jul 23, 2024

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Wondered if anyone could assit.

I have a sony camera.  I using convert the files in capture one the the tiff files I run though camera raw and photoshop.

Never had an issue until yesterday when I have found when I am processing the tiff files in camera raw they are much more saturated then when they are open in photoshop.  

It means I can't really do any adjustments in camera raw anymore as the end result isn't what gets pushed across to photoshop.  See two screen grabs as example.

No settings have changed over than recenlty ungraded to windows 11.

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Jul 23, 2024 Jul 23, 2024

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The interface in both PS and ACR should be a neutral grey, but yours have a yellow cast.

This indicates that you may have a defective monitor profile, which will also cause images to display with wrong colors.

A defective monitor profile can affect different applications differently – here it seems that PS is unaffected, but ACR displays over saturated. It is also possible that both are wrong, PS could be displaying the image with the same yellow cast as the interface.

 

To check for a defective monitor profile, try setting it to sRGB (use Adobe RGB if you have a wide gamut monitor).

With ACR and PS closed, press the Windows key + R, type colorcpl in the box and press Enter.

Add the sRGB profile, then set it as default.

 

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If this fixes the issue, you should ideally calibrate your monitor with a hardware calibrator.

This will also create and install a custom monitor profile that will be more accurate than sRGB or Adobe RGB.

If the problem persists, make sure that that your GPU driver is up to date. As far as I know, it's the GPU that handles the conversion from the document profile to the monitor profile (this is basically how color management works).

 

I have inserted your screenshots below.

In the future, please do not attach images, use the Insert Photos button in the toolbar to embed them in the post.

 

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Jul 26, 2024 Jul 26, 2024

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Thanks for the reply.

It doesn't seem to be either of these to issues.

When I have run the file through camera raw then adjusted in photoshop, when I come to save as a Jpeg it has a warning button I have not seen before which says "The document image depth cannot be preserved"  Do this give any insight?

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Jul 26, 2024 Jul 26, 2024

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If your tiff is 16-bit, the message makes sense because jpg is 8-bit only.

I have never seen this message, maybe it's something new, I'm using PS version 25.2.

And I would guess that it says "The document bit depth cannot be preserved", or similar.

But this has nothing to do with your color issues.

 

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It doesn't seem to be either of these to issues.

By @Terence33085740om48

 

How did you come to this conclusion?

Did you try to change the monitor profile as I suggested?

And is your GPU driver up to date? If you have an Nvidia GPU, use the Studio driver, not the Game ready driver.

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Jul 27, 2024 Jul 27, 2024

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It said the drivers were up to date but noticed in photoshop under the help tab when checking it siad they were out of date so downloaded a driver from Nvidia direct and chose studio driver and seems to have done the job.

Thanks for the assitence.

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Jul 28, 2024 Jul 28, 2024

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Did updating the driver also get rid of the yellow cast in the interface?

If it didn't, you have a defective monitor profile.

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Jul 28, 2024 Jul 28, 2024

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Hi,

 

Think I spoke to soon.  Its still happening.

I think the yellow cast is the filter which has been applied in the raw convertor before I tweak the photo in photoshop.

 

Drivers are up to date but have the wierd situation where in camera raw everything is way over staturated but soon as back in photoshop its dull and I have to add a bit of staturation in before saving as a jpeg. 

 

I have a Dell lap top if I callibrate the screen do you think that will make a difference?  

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Jul 28, 2024 Jul 28, 2024

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Please read my first post again, and try setting the monitor profile to sRGB, or Adobe RGB if you have a wide gamut monitor. What is the exact model of your Dell laptop? The specs of the screen will determine if you should use sRGB or Adobe RGB.

The monitor profile is set in Windows, and served to color managed applications when they launch.

Windows updates are known to install low quality monitor profiles from monitor manufacturers when doing updates, and these profiles are often defective out of the box. Dell has a particularly bad reputation for this.

 

Calibration with a hardware calibrator is always recommended, but setting the monitor profile to sRGB is a quick and easy test for a defective profile, and a possible temporary solution.  

 

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Jul 31, 2024 Jul 31, 2024

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Thanks for the reply.

 

My settings are as follows:

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Jul 31, 2024 Jul 31, 2024

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I have calibrated but I still have similar issue:

 

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Jul 31, 2024 Jul 31, 2024

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I think I have figured this out.  HD was set in the disply settings so I think this was impacting.

 

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