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Stopping that dynamic zoom thingie

Explorer ,
Dec 13, 2023 Dec 13, 2023

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Using photoshop cc version 24.7.2.    When workiing on a photo in the camera RAW box, is there an alternative to the annoying dynamic zoom when enlarging the photo?  If I siopen the photo in photoshop outside of the camera raw box, the zoom is normal.  But inside camera raw, it's that dynamic jumpy in-your-face, excessive zoom thing goin' on.  I can't find any setting to change it.

 

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Dec 13, 2023 Dec 13, 2023

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Hi @How2DoThis go to Photoshop Preferences/File Handling/Camera Raw Preferences

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Turn off "Use Lightroom style zoom and pan"

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Dec 14, 2023 Dec 14, 2023

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Lightroom Style Zoom & Pan was not turned on to begin with.  I think Adobe forces the dynamic zoom in the raw dialog box and that there's no other option.  It's terrible.  There should be an option to tun it off.  Sad

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Dec 14, 2023 Dec 14, 2023

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Did you deactivate the animated zoom in the regular Photoshop Preferences/Tools? Worth a try.

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Dec 14, 2023 Dec 14, 2023

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Thanks for the help.  Yes, I long ago deactivated the animated zoom in the regular photoshop settings.  Open a photo in camera raw and hit Command + and you will see the animated zoom. 

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Dec 14, 2023 Dec 14, 2023

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And if you hit Command +  several times in a row, there's a delay.  A pointless delay.  And there's no option to disable it.  Thanks, Adobe!  Thanks for caring about what your customers want.

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Dec 14, 2023 Dec 14, 2023

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New M2 Studio Max, and it's helpless to speed up the lagging animated zoom in camera RAW.  Common Adobe!!!!  

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Dec 14, 2023 Dec 14, 2023

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...go easy on the hippe grass.

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Dec 15, 2023 Dec 15, 2023

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The only setting you can change is the set %zoom value. This then becomes a toggle by a click of the mouse  {FIT <> Set%}

The default 100% is the recommended zoom setting for evaluating sharpening, detail, noise, etc.

If you don't like 100%- change it.

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ACR is similar to Lightroom-Classic in that both apps are not controlling rendered RGB pixels in an image and the zoom views are more like individual previews of each of the available set sizes. Only in a Photoshop document will you have a smooth zoom result without the incremental changes.

 

Regards. My System: Lightroom-Classic 13.4, Photoshop 25.9.1, ACR 16.4, Lightroom 7.4, Lr-iOS 9.0.1, Bridge 14.1.1, Windows-11.

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Dec 15, 2023 Dec 15, 2023

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Thanks for that explanation.  Adobe Camera Raw should be just like photoshop in the way it renders everything.  Or they should merge the two together.    I didn't even know they were two separate apps.  All I know is I'm doing things in canera raw that I can't do in photoshop.  Just merge them together already.  And I keep switch back and forth between the two.  There should be a toggle switch to do that, istead of the 3-key thingie or diving into a menu

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Dec 16, 2023 Dec 16, 2023

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I am no expert on this topic but enjoy the conversation-

Adobe Camera Raw should be just like photoshop in the way it renders everything.

Would be nice but I doubt that will ever happen. ACR works in the 'Virtual' world with raw data, and Photoshop works in a 'Physical' environment with RGB pixel data.

Or they should merge the two together. I didn't even know they were two separate apps.

Well they are not really "two separate apps" as ACR (the Plugin) is designed to render (demozaic) raw data into pixel data that Photoshop requires.  Consider ACR to be a "Plugin for Ps" - Not an independent app.

All I know is I'm doing things in canera raw that I can't do in photoshop. Just merge them together already. And I keep switch back and forth between the two.

What method are you using to "switch back and forth"?  Only by opening a raw image as a Smart Object Layer in Ps (eg. from Lightroom-Classic) can you switch back to the ACR PLUGIN.  If you are using the Camera Raw FILTER  from the Filter menu in Photoshop [Shift + Ctrl + A] , the UI looks the same, but it is working with RGB 'Pixels' in the Ps document- something entirely different to the ACR Plugin.

Common advice is to render raw files in ACR (or the Lightroom apps) then 'open' and edit in Photoshop as the last step (ie. not switching back & forth.)

 

Regards. My System: Lightroom-Classic 13.4, Photoshop 25.9.1, ACR 16.4, Lightroom 7.4, Lr-iOS 9.0.1, Bridge 14.1.1, Windows-11.

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Dec 16, 2023 Dec 16, 2023

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Thanks.  I just click and drag a raw file to photoshop, it opens in camera raw.  I then do exposure adjustments and skin smoothing, healing brush for face touchups, etc. I need to enlarge the photo to do this, and I don't know why Adobe can't just make it a regular zoom as opposed to the crappy animated delay zoom.  I then click open, and it opens in photoshop where I do more stuff to it, and sometimes I need to go back to camera raw, so I go to Filter, Camera Raw Filter.  Then I have all the camera raw tools back.  It's either the menu clicks or quick keys to switch back and forth.  I'm doing portraits mostly.  For the most part, photoshop is improved and more intelligent, etc.  It is just that camera raw animated zoon.

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Dec 17, 2023 Dec 17, 2023

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I suggest you make a post as an 'idea' for your "zoom" needs. With enough 'likes' Adobe might consider it.

 

But I reiterate- Adobe Camera Raw PLUGIN (working with raw data) is not the same as the Camera Raw FILTER (working with rendererd RGB data)  in Ps.

Once in Photoshop your "bread is baked".  As from a post by D.Fosse: in this link https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/adjusting-exposure-in-acr-ps/m-p/1304...

"A raw file has a dynamic range of up to 14 stops. A gamma encoded RGB file can only contain about 7 or 8 stops of this. This 7 or 8 stop dynamic range is what you see in the ACR window, but there's still hidden data that you can't see.

That doesn't mean it's wasted, because you can use the controls in ACR to map the original 14 stop data into an 8 stop RGB file. But you can't go the other way, and that's the whole point. Once encoded into RGB, the bread is baked."

 

Regards. My System: Lightroom-Classic 13.4, Photoshop 25.9.1, ACR 16.4, Lightroom 7.4, Lr-iOS 9.0.1, Bridge 14.1.1, Windows-11.

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