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P: More Export Formats Besides Jpg of edited photos!

LEGEND ,
Nov 11, 2017 Nov 11, 2017

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First off I love Lightroom in all iterations: cc classic and mobile. Now that I do a vast majority of my photography on mobile, The limitation of exporting only unedited originals as DNG is a downer. I edit a large portion of my photos in LR mobile and I’m stuck with a not so awesome JPEG as my only export format. DNG or PNG would be fantastic as it preserves the original oomph of the raw capture and allows for higher quality edits in other apps/programs. (I know HEIC is in the works). Greatly appreciated!

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Adobe Employee , Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

PNG, AVIF, and JXL  have all been added in recent releases

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 13, 2017 Nov 13, 2017

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Thanks, Evan. Great idea!

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Explorer ,
Nov 14, 2017 Nov 14, 2017

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+1 I raised this in another thread.

In the mobile app we only have one option 2048px , with no control of the compression level or colour space .
While an sRGB compressed jpg at 2048px is fine for web use and general previews .

I find an iPad Pro is great for editing/ grading images , it’s a shame it only has one option.

Plus on desktop Lightroom cc is very limited by its output options too
-in fact there is NO WAY to output a highest quality jpg or tiff Adobe RGB file , all outputs (even full size) have compression and are only sRGB .
That’s amatuer at best.

So if I make a grat image and a lovely grade , how do I pass the best quality version to my client or print for myself.?
(The original + xmp is ridiculous - designers just want an adobe RGB tiff to embed in their design layout.)

Do adobe think this is a web only tool? And have they gone completely immersed in ‘the cloud’ thinking people don’t need full quality images any more?

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 14, 2017 Nov 14, 2017

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Hi Steve,

Good question! For that type of workflow you would continue to use Lightroom Classic. It has all the export options you're used to.

Keep in mind, Lightroom CC is not an update or replacement for Lightroom Classic. It is an entirely new product with a Cloud based workflow. You might find it useful in some ways but when you want full control over the file during export then Lr Classic is your best bet!

Cheers!

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Explorer ,
Nov 14, 2017 Nov 14, 2017

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Thanks Rick

but I Lightroom classic interface is cluttered , ugly and so old looking and not intuitive.
Seriously I cannot use it . I used it for 2 weeks 7 years ago then jumped to Capture one Pro .

However Lightroom mobile and cc have won me back - they have a really nice interface and dry intuitive - shame it’s such a cut down product .
- it should be your halo one .
The cloud sync is great

I’m coming over from Capture One Pro . And I’m seriously impressed , bar a fair few rudimentary shortcomings (like no full export settings control and no curves on CC!)
which I hope will be implemented and sorted out soon.

Seriously not being able to export an image with no compression or Adobe RGB colour space is mental

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 14, 2017 Nov 14, 2017

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Well, like I said, it's brand new and Adobe likes input from customers to help tailor the product to fit their needs.

If ya don't like it today, tell us what you would like it to be tomorrow. I promise you, we are listening!

Cheers! 

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Explorer ,
Nov 14, 2017 Nov 14, 2017

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Rick I actually really like it ‘today’ but want / really need to see more functionality in it .

It’s awesome so far , and i know it’s in it’s infancy .
I truely hope it can become fully fledged .

And of course I’ll be making my thoughts and ideas heard that can hopefully help you to develop it.

How Can I email a wish list and critique to senior developer? - instead of posting fragmented comments , or ideas/ problems .
Like i say it has so much potential , I’ve not been this excited about any software in years .

This has the ability to cut into Capture One Pro sales / users really heavily with a good handful of additions .
Everyone is crying out for a C1 ipad and sync solution , yet while they are saying doing nothing
Adobe has lept frog the industry leader 🙂

In the professional photography industry only 20% at best use Lightroom - that’s a huge market for adobe to capitalise from especially with the cloud storage options .

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Community Expert ,
Nov 14, 2017 Nov 14, 2017

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It's so nice to hear the excitement Steve! You've put a big smile on my face.

Here's the best place for feature requests, because other people can vote on the individual ideas and Adobe can get a feel for how popular different features are, which then influences their priorities. 
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Victoria - The Lightroom Queen - Author of the Lightroom Missing FAQ & Edit on the Go books.

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 15, 2017 Nov 15, 2017

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Thanks again for the input, Steve! 

Like Victoria said, this is the best way to let us know what you think. Just make sure each post is a single idea so we can track it and others can vote on it. 

Cheers!

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New Here ,
Mar 24, 2018 Mar 24, 2018

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Hi Evan, not sure if this helps, but you mentioned PNG as a option you would like on export. You could try the following, once you have edited your image, choose to edit in photoshop fix for example. Once it opens in fix, don’t edited, just save it back into Lightroom mobile and it will create a new PNG from your original RAW image back in LR Mobile. Then the way you export it is to go into the creative cloud app on same device, look for your album that the png is in and you’ll see it there, which can now be copied to wherever in files. Hope that helps. What I do is at the end of my edit, the selected images I’ve marked a certain way, I filter them, edit them in photoshop fix, but don’t do anything to them and then grab them from creative cloud. Unfortunately creative cloud doesn’t do multiple image exports I believe, so one at a time.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 24, 2018 Mar 24, 2018

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John - I will definitely use that’s in a pinch but, you do see how insane that work around is, right? Even down to the fact that the creative cloud app won’t do multiple exports at once. This all just seems bass-ackwards for a company that has its own AI to autotune our images... thank you nonetheless! My hat is off to your puzzle solving abilities!

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New Here ,
Mar 24, 2018 Mar 24, 2018

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Your absolutely right, for me just allowing more then a 15 image export out of Lightroom mobile at one time would be enough. It’s crazy, the only thing I can think of is that iOS is restricting Adobe due to design flaws in apples setup, but who knows. I’d hate to find out they do this purely to stop people only using mobile and not purchasing creative cloud for desktop. I’d pay more just to get mobile working properly. I’ve got a work around for most things, just waiting on adobe to add multiple image export.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 10, 2018 Apr 10, 2018

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There’s a huge thread about this as well in the Lightroom CC category. Perhaps it should be merged?

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 10, 2018 Apr 10, 2018

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Link to thread: “Lightroom CC: Additional options needed when exporting” https://feedback.photoshop.com/photos...

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LEGEND ,
Sep 07, 2018 Sep 07, 2018

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Would be really nice to have at least a few other options for exporting on my mobile. Save to device at highest quality or 2048px is not sufficient. We use this app for Instagram but without any export options that work with their compression algorithm you're forcing us to switch to desktop and it slows down workflow.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 07, 2018 Sep 07, 2018

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As has already been posted numerous times, more export options and a bare minimum of one high quality option (TIFF 8 and 16 bit) would be a requirement to anyone wanting a complete photography workflow on mobile.
Otherwise to put it simply it’s not possible to use Lightroom mobile in such a workflow, and that’s a shame because it’s one of the better applications out there.

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New Here ,
Sep 07, 2018 Sep 07, 2018

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Just use the workflow app and set your export pixel width or length using a share extension. The lightroom high quality export has the same dpi value as low 2048px one, so choose the high quality option and set the pixel amount on export in workflow.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 07, 2018 Sep 07, 2018

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I dont think you get the problem, sorry to say ^^
The problem is that jpeg is a lossy image compression format, you lose in color quality (8 bit) and in sharpness, even at the best settings.
When you edit further (after Lightroom for example), you need a very good quality base image otherwise some editing processes will considerably deteriorate IQ due to the original image being a JPEG (although it might look good initially, but for example increasing the contrast in dark zones of a JPEG will almost certainly end in terrible banding or other compression artifacts being clearly visible).

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New Here ,
Sep 07, 2018 Sep 07, 2018

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I actually gave a full explanation on the original forum linked to this one https://feedback.photoshop.com/photos..., which I forgot to link to, where I say my solution is NOT for changing bit depth or file type, only pixel count. If you are needing higher quality, on one or a few of your images, you could just sync those ones in the cloud, which will open in classic as RAWs with your full edit, ready to do what you like with it on export in whatever format and bit rate. I don’t know many who would take an already edited jpg further into the editing process, so I’m not sure what you mean by that, that would be obvious. Try select an image in lightroom mobile and choose “edit in”. This will take you into a programme like photoshop fix or whatever you choose. Don’t do anything to the image in fix, just save it back into Lightroom and you may get a tiff or png file with high bit rate. I can’t say for sure, check it out and test it. If this is the case, just do that to an image where you feel you need a higher quality image then the standard export jpg. Once saved back into cc mobile, export original, which will contain your edit and in the high quality.

I absolutely get what the problem is, I just forgot to link my full response. I actually should’ve just kept my response on the other forum, not this one.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 07, 2018 Sep 07, 2018

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The point is that we don’t want to use Lighroom Clasic 🙂

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New Here ,
Sep 07, 2018 Sep 07, 2018

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Yes Victor I understand the issue, it’s not lost on me, I edit around 55 thousand photos a year, I’m just giving people options to help them. One option was classic, the other was using “edit in” in FIX, why not rather comment on that one, it’s not as if I only mentioned classic. I suspect the need for uncompressed edited images retaining bit depth is for a particular use, I don’t suspect every imported edited image in mobile would need that umcompression on export which is why I’ve given a solution to export the image you do need uncompressed. If not helpful, then cool.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 07, 2018 Sep 07, 2018

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Your hacks are excellent and useful, thanks for sharing them!

Besides that, what I'm concerned with is giving Adobe more reasons to push this down the priority list because half-alternatives might exist.

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New Here ,
Sep 08, 2018 Sep 08, 2018

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Yes sure I understand your point. Maybe we need to create a hacks forum, if not setup already. Adobe if you are listening, my hacks are exactly that, just hacks, not solutions, get your A into G.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 08, 2018 Sep 08, 2018

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Nice hacks John, but for me the problem is still there and painful. My main editing application is affinity and it will stay as is, what I wanted to do is add Lightroom mobile to the workflow before affinity, as it’s got a ton of qualities to prepare and cleanup raw images : I do think both can be associated successfully.
However this is impossible because Lightroom mobile does not permit export of high quality images.
And I’m definitely not the only one in that situation, anytime you want to place Lightroom mobile before something else you will at some stage have a problem with the incoming image being a jpeg (this also applies to photoshop fix).
And as Victor says, I want to stay in the mobile space. That’s the point of Lightroom « mobile » is it not ?

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New Here ,
Sep 08, 2018 Sep 08, 2018

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Thanks for the comment, agreed, serious flaws in app features. Where you wrote “at some stage have a problem with incoming image being a jpeg” , can you alaborate in what situation are you referring to, so I can get an idea of your workflow. Apparently Affinty doesn’t have batch export? If not, that would be a big problem for me. I also think one of the biggest issues is getting your catalog and images off your iPad keeping your xmp data with your RAWs, so when archived away, at any stage you could opening it all up again on whatever device you like and have edits intact. The only option currently is back onto desktop through the cloud.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 08, 2018 Sep 08, 2018

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Simple example : let’s say I open a photograph with Lightroom, apply noise reduction, lens corrections, geometry corrections, and a few other tweaks like global exposure.
If I then share the image from Lightroom and open it with affinity, it is saved as a jpeg image by Lightroom and opened as is by affinity. Which means : compression artifacts have been added (8-bit color which can cause banding on skies for example, plus a general loss of sharpness, even with a jpeg 100% quality).
In affinity, when working on the image, let’s say I end up modifying the contrast of some parts of the sky : and oh no ! The banding artifacts all of a sudden become clearly visible (by reducing colors to 8 bits, jpeg loses a lot of color gradient information, on a finished image it is not really a problem since your eye cannot really see the difference, but on an image you want to edit further it definitely is because your editing could worsen the effect).
And that’s only one example out of many in which compression artifacts can cause problems with further editing.
So it’s obvious it’s not possible to make pro quality editing work with a jpeg as a start image, but it would be if only TIFF 16-bit for example was available as an export option from Lightroom.

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