P: Support for Canon .CR3 Camera-matching Profiles

[DNPhoto]

There is currently zero support for .CR3 camera color profiles in Lightroom... especially since the newer Canon cameras use a .CR3 format... making it difficult to get work done. Only slightly surprised that this wasnt planned for beforehand since there still isnt a 64bit version of the adobe programs that i can use on the most current version of MacOS.

[TheDigitalDog]

Adobe DID provide a factual answer, it was pasted here 2 months ago. Since some haven't found it, I'll paste it again (2nd time today):

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/camera-raw-and-dng/what-does-camera-support-mean/5f5f46...

” Support for a particular flavor of a camera’s raw file does not necessarily mean that there will be Camera Matching profiles for that camera at the time of raw file support. It is normal for Camera Matching profiles to follow raw support by one or two releases. In the case of some camera manufacturers or the event of major changes by a particular manufacturer, that time may be greatly increased. 

Note: Not all cameras will ever receive a set of Camera Matching profiles. ”

The last sentence is key to read and accept. This may change, it may not. 

In the meantime you can work towards your own solution of complain. The former takes less time than the later actually. 

“If you spend five minutes complaining, you have just wasted five minutes.” Anonymous

[thomasp3495949]

ooo now we have quotes from anonymous, this is getting fun

[TheDigitalDog]

ooo now we have quotes from anonymous, this is getting fun

Nope:

[thomasp3495949]

not to antagonize too much, but the biggest question is when and if , the vague response adobe is giving should be clarified.,  

In all seriousness i do appreciate you info, i will look at it further if I have time,, I spend more time behind the camera than at the desk. 

[TheDigitalDog]

There was clarification in the URL provided from Adobe. 

You will need to spend a minute or two behind the camera to create your own DCP camera profiles but it is time well spent. Maybe some time editing them to match a JPEG (questionable if that's even necessary, rendering controls as outlined above, saved as a Preset can probably provide a subjective acceptance of a 'match' which no one anywhere ever guaranteed would produce a match in all cases). 

[thomasp3495949]

ok, I'll stop here, your not getting were i am coming from and that's fine, you can release me back into the wild. 

[thomasp3495949]

does adobe ever post in here? to this thread that is

[thomasp3495949]

last question got merged so I will try again, seems third parties can make a profile that is close but not quite there, it has been a long time since the cr3 came out, if there a guess or timeline of camera profiles?

[TheDigitalDog]

does adobe ever post in here?

Yes; as the URL I provided with the post from Adobe illustrates. 

[TheDigitalDog]

Anyone can make or edit a DCP camera profile. You simply need the software to do so, at least two companies (Adobe and X-rite) have free products to do so. 

[carlitosmg]

nice thread. 

- I paid the $15 to ColorFidelity for the M6mkII profiles.  I didn't want to spend time creating my own DCP, but I do want to easily get a BASELINE on RAW that looks close to what Canon JPG is.
Although not imposible by any means, I don't think creating a good profile is 5 minutes, and if it were, Adobe could've done it already

- I know I can use Canon's DPP to get an exact match. But I actually enjoy doing all my photo processing in LR. 

- I don't DEMAND Adobe to get these camera matching profiles out. It would be nice, that's all. Again, because I actually enjoy doing 100% of my processing in LR. 

- In other words, Adobe Product Managers, I think there's some need for these profiles..

[TheDigitalDog]

Creating a profile is about 5 minutes to produce after shooting a target. 

I never said nor suggested editing any profile to mimic a JPEG would take 5 minutes. Might, probably not. Absolutely doable either with the free DNG camera profile editor OR using the Calibration Pane and other sliders then produce a preset. Does it or will it match ALL JPEGs? Doubtful nor can Adobe or anyone else guarantee such profiles or presets will always do so.

I do want to easily get a BASELINE on RAW that looks close 

The key word is close.  

[johnrellis]

Note that there is an official response from Adobe employee Rikk Flohr at the top of this conversation, posted 13 hours ago.

Also note that Adobe has marked this feature request as "planned". But it's very unlikely that you'll get a timeline from Adobe -- to quote Rikk, "ETA for any type of camera support is generally not announced in advance of release."

[thomasp3495949]

take a break andrew lets hear from someone else,  

[thomasp3495949]

I read Rikk but its a vague "we aren't going to answer answer and then there is andrew_rodney who must sit next to Rikk but Ill keep asking hope there will be a real answer soon instead of the not going to answer that answers................

Using a profile now from conlorfidelity but its not the same and tried using my color chart from Xrite, but it not the same, it has been said it only take a few minutes in this thread multiple times but if so then adobe could do it better than me.

[TheDigitalDog]

Nothing at all vague. You didn't hear an answer you want to hear, oh well. 

Those who know when (because they either work for Adobe or are under NDA) can't say. Those who are not might tell you something you want to hear that's not accurate. 

Rikk provided the facts directly from inside Adobe, it's a real answer. You can accept or ignore the actual answer; it's not going to make the profiles appear for you. 

ok, I'll stop here, your not getting were i am coming from and that's fine, you can release me back into the wild. 

Released <g>

[TheDigitalDog]

Someone else did answer: John Ellis below. 

 it's very unlikely that you'll get a timeline from Adobe 

[thomasp3495949]

thank you again for another riveting response Andrew

[TheDigitalDog]

thank you again for another riveting response Andrew

OK, since you must have an answer (date) accurate or made up, the profiles you desire will be released on February 29. <g>. 

[thomasp3495949]

lol love it! andrew_rodney your the greatest!

[thomasp3495949]

if I ever get to santa fe, we got to do coffee! your a trip andrew_rodney,.. 

ill wait a day or so and ask the same question again and we can start over

[thomasp3495949]

my apologies daniel_nikhoo_683pb7az4x0q2, 

[TheDigitalDog]

ill wait a day or so and ask the same question again and we can start over

Albert Einstein- "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different result”

[thomasp3495949]

help adobe get newer canons to have profiles through petitioning the mfg or what ever would help, specifically the pro bodies like the r5, etc

[jan b.t8934576]

A year old thread and I am still waiting for these profiles.

I wonder if Adobe can give us some more info about what is going on, please? Is there any progress? Does Canon refuse to provide you with the information you need?