+ Camera Raw Feature Requests +

[Ian Lyons]

UPDATE:

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In future it would helpful if you could use this thread as a means to add

"Features" that you would like to see in future releases of Adobe Camera Raw.

Please do NOT create additional new Topics and try not to duplicate requests by other users. Also, be thorough in your description of the feature and why you think Adobe should consider it.

Oh, and if you find it necessary to comment on someone's feature request/suggestion, try not to get into a shouting match. The penalty for doing so is...

b If you're asking that a particular camera is supported in a future release or just taking the opportunity to carp that yours isn't then please do so in another thread!

IanLyons

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[Thomas Knoll]

"The ability to include the 'silent' reference pixels outside the standard frame in case you framed an image just a little too tightly. "

Stay tuned... ;-)

[_Shangara_Singh_]

I'd be happy to have some of the current features fixed.

I still can't read RGB readings sometimes when ACR is hosted by Bridge and
also my cursors animate, which is very distracting.

If I have sharpening set to previews only, the Camera Raw metadata reads as
if it has been applied. It always reads, Sharpness: 25. When it should read,
Sharpness: 0.

New features: a quick way of setting the sliders that zero in the middle to
zero. For example, by Opt or Shift-clicking in the text field.

Shangara Singh.

[Ramón_G_Castañeda]

Nice. :)

[_Barry_Clive_Pearson_]

Do those "'silent' reference pixels outside the standard frame" contain image data then?

A bit like the outer bit of a 35mm slide frame that gets covered by the slide mount, that you need to get at sometimes?

[Ramón_G_Castañeda]

Nunatak,

Do you think Thomas Knoll would bother with them if they contained no data? :)

[SimonTindemans]

Thanks, Thomas! And yes, the data in these pixels is indeed quite valid. RawShooter uses all pixels by default, and Silkypix Developer Studio lets you extend your image to include the outer pixels as an option. I like the latter option best, especially for cameras with a 100% viewfinder. WYSIWYG, unless you want to add a little more.

[_Barry_Clive_Pearson_]

Ramón, I think Nunatak is innocent at #81! I suspect you were commenting on what I said.

Yes, I shouldn't have said that. I was caught by surprise. What I should have asked is "how many are there, and how good is the quality of them?" (Simon says "quite valid").

With a 2008 x 3008 Pentax, using (I believe) a Sony sensor, what more can I expect? I sometimes frame too tightly.

[Ramón_G_Castañeda]

Apparently, we'll soon see, Barry. :)

Sorry about the misguided reference to Nunatak. :(

[_Jörgen_Nilsson_]

I still want to be able to use ACR and turn off the built in profiles. I work mostly with MF digital backs and would like to be able to use ACR and PS seamless with furure DNG files from the backs. Please Mr Knoll, is it possible to make ACR work that way ?

Jörgen Nilsson, Sweden

[_nunatak_]

Ramón, Barry,

it's all news to me. i wasn't even aware that any marginal data was being excluded! :-)

does anyone know if it's because the pixels degenerate--like the edges of a film frame, or is it tied to some physical property of the camera's viewfinder?

[SimonTindemans]

nunatak,

My guess is that it's partly to allow for manufacturing and assembly tolerances. I've also heard these pixels are used for reference purposes, but that would make sense only if the pixels were actually shielded from light, right?

Simon

[_Barry_Clive_Pearson_]

nunatak, I haven't a clue! I was caught by surprise on this, and still haven't recovered.

But I do wonder - will this apply to old DNGs? In other words, did old DNG Converters strip off the extra pixels, so that a new ACR won't reveal them? Or are they still lurking in those old DNGs, waiting for a new ACR to reveal some pixels we didn't know we had?

[_nunatak_]

simon ...

not sure--but that would make sense. i wonder how much of an offset would be required?

>that would make sense only if the pixels were actually shielded from light, right?

hmmm. theoretically only four pixels would need to be referenced in the array. there are a number of ways that this could be done. one way might be they'd zero those pixels in the factory and then burn the offset into the camera's ROM. ???

[_nunatak_]

barry ...

>But I do wonder - will this apply to old DNGs?

good question. if not, it could validate some people's concerns about converting their files. personally, i wouldn't worry too much about losing a few pixels. in the print biz it's standard to allot a 1/8" (3mm) tolerance for bleed at the edge of the trim area.

[Ramón_G_Castañeda]

Shangara,
>I still can't read RGB readings sometimes when ACR is hosted by Bridge and also my cursors animate, which is very distracting.

The latter bug disappears when you launch Bridge first, before launching Photoshop.

I have not seen the RGB readings failure, but it might just go away too.

[Thomas Knoll]

"But I do wonder - will this apply to old DNGs?"

Yes...

[_Jörgen_Nilsson_]

OK, I give up. No answers about if it would be possible to have ACR to turn off its profiling. I know that there are other professionals out there who are interested in using ACR/PS for their MF DNG files with custom profiles...

Jörgen

[_Barry_Clive_Pearson_]

I would like an ACR option "fit cropped in view".

I have just been ACRing a cropped raw image. "Fit in view" appeared to be fitting the whole original image, rather than the cropped version, in the view, so wasting some of the screen. Perhaps useful when re-cropping, but not when doing the other stuff.

[Thomas Knoll]

>I would like an ACR option "fit cropped in view".

Double click on the crop tool.

[_Barry_Clive_Pearson_]

Thanks, Thomas.

It is worth trying double-clicking on things, isn't it? I just found a couple of other things I didn't know.

[_Michael_Gebauer_]

First let me tell you, that ACR is a great tool converting RAWs. I like it very much. But there is one feature I miss today:

I would like to see CMYK values as an alternative to RGB values as this is possible in Photoshop when setting a marker in ACR. This will be a great help to tune skin tones directly within ACR.

Kind regards
Michael

[_Andy_Batt_]

Kudos to Thomas, et al for producing such a great tool.
I went through this list trying to make sure I am being original here - and to the best of my knowledge I am.

1. In, ACR, for the individual tabs: an on/off button, and a reset to last opened state button. I realize you can use the Preview box to show and hide the cumulative effect. What the on/off button would do is allow you to preview just the changes you have made to that tab, and not the cumulative effect. I realize there are a bazillion levels of undo, but there are times when it would be nice to go back to the 'entry state' with a single click. I realize the reset button does this for all the tabs - I'd like this effect for each tab individually

2. Incorporated into the sidecar and/or DNG ACR meta: the ability to have multiple looks, as in multiple groups of ACR settings. They could have a ranking so there is always a primary for use in creating previews, etc. It would be especially nice when I need to have a B&W version, a Cool version and a Warm version of the same image, and even nicer when I have to do this across a group of images. I realize that I can save ACR settings files outside of the file, but it would be nice to have these travel with the file. It would also allow me to preserve what I believe to be the best 'normal' conversion settings, while letting me experiment with, for example, a high contrast, punchy blacks cross process look.

thanks
Andy Batt

[_Joseph_Malet_]

Where is that other thread? I would like to suggest a camera, where or more specifically how do I find the proper thread?

[_Barry_Clive_Pearson_]

This sounds like a DNG feature request, but I don't think it is.

I would like to be able to see in Bridge+ACR the DNG-version information of my DNG files. Perhaps in "File Properties" metadata?

It is not important yet, (just interesting), but in future may well be important.

[John MacLean]

I'd like to be able to soft proof!