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Embed metadata in NEF (Camera RAW 12.3)

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After the update to Adobe Camera Raw 12.3 (under MacOS Mojave 10.14.6), the metadata are saved again as xmp-Sidecar. However, I would like to embed them in the NEF files as before.

(my Camera is a Nikon D7200 ... before the Update this worked perfectly)

However, I do not find the attitude!

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No raw converter can write information to a raw file because each manufacturer uses its own proprietary raw format for the different camera models. Up to Camera Raw version 12.2.1 it was possible to save the settings in the Camera Raw database. This option is missing in 12.3. I hope that this will be possible again soon.

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Embed metadata in NEF (Camera RAW 12.3)

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After the update to Adobe Camera Raw 12.3 (under MacOS Mojave 10.14.6), the metadata are saved again as xmp-Sidecar. However, I would like to embed them in the NEF files as before.

(my Camera is a Nikon D7200 ... before the Update this worked perfectly)

However, I do not find the attitude!

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Correct answer by Marianne-Deiters | Adobe Community Professional

No raw converter can write information to a raw file because each manufacturer uses its own proprietary raw format for the different camera models. Up to Camera Raw version 12.2.1 it was possible to save the settings in the Camera Raw database. This option is missing in 12.3. I hope that this will be possible again soon.

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I might be wrong, but I don't believe there has ever been the ability to embed metadata in the NEF file. What IS missing, apparently, is the option to save metadata to a database rather than an XMP sidecar file. I have seen this mentioned by other users.

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Hmmm ... then the following should not work: Edit a NEF file in CameraRAW on my Mac at work ... take it home with a USB stick and the settings are still there ... without an XMP file.

... but that has always worked so far

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I'm using Camera Raw 12.3, what little bit I use Camera Raw. I'm not proficient with using it, I admit. I access Camera Raw from Bridge. When in Bridge, I see my NEF files, but the XMP files do not display. If I copy a NEF file and paste it to the desktop, for example, and then go to the desktop, the NEF file and the accompanying XMP file are there. I don't know what your workflow is, but as far as I know there is no way to embed metadata in any raw file. If I am wrong I hope someone will correct me.

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You can make the XMP files visible in Adobe Bridge. In the "View" menu mark the option "Show hidden Files".

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Adobe treats proprietary raws as read-only hence sidecar files. Convert to DNG, they will happly embed all kinds of metadata in that containter. 

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Embedding the metadata in a NEF file has worked for me for years! And I would like to keep it the same way. No separate sidecars and no DNG files.
With every major camera raw update, the metadata handling is reset to the basic setting (separate xmp). So far I have always been able to set it up so that it is embedded in my NEFs ... but now I can not longer find this setting option! Even an extensive Google search did nothing.

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Sorry, no; Adobe has never embedded anything inside a proprietary raw. Maybe another raw converter but not ACR. 

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https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/camera-raw-settings.html

When a camera raw image file is processed with Camera Raw, the image settings are stored in one of two places: the Camera Raw database file or a sidecar XMP file. When a DNG file is processed in Camera Raw, the settings are stored in the DNG file itself, but they can be stored in a sidecar XMP file instead. Settings for TIFF and JPEG files are always stored in the file itself.

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What former behavior in Camera Raw can you outline/describe that would verify that Camera Raw stored the settings within the NEF file? I have never encountered that behavior and have been using Camera Raw or Lightroom for more than a decade.

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No raw converter can write information to a raw file because each manufacturer uses its own proprietary raw format for the different camera models. Up to Camera Raw version 12.2.1 it was possible to save the settings in the Camera Raw database. This option is missing in 12.3. I hope that this will be possible again soon.

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I'm with Marianne-Deiters on this one. There may well be advantages and disadvantages to having a sidecar XMP file, but before the latest upgrade I had a *choice*. I have no choice now. I *chose* to dump external sidecar XMP files many years ago to simplify file tracking. What a PIA it is to be forced back to the old ways. Come on Adobe! My hard drive is now filled with XMP files that I have to manually transport to every new location. Please bring back the old choice. 

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This is a user to user forum. We are all just other users like yourself. On the main first page of this forum there is a link where you can provide feedback. That link is where you can express your opinion where the developers monitor much more closely. Complaining here is like a street demonstration. A lot of people will read your complaint, but none of us can do a thing about it.

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