Need a download link to ACR 12.2.1. (Previous Version)

[johnf76405211]

Obviously, there is a lot of regret in downgrading to 12.3. Currently, the only available older versions start at 11, which isn't very useful for new camera owners.

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[DarkWarriorUK]

If you don't like or use Camera Raw
Why are you making further comments now this post is part of the Camera Raw forum
Are you not just making pointless comments about something you know nothing about

[AdvdB]

Hi all,

Aha, I'm not the only one, who doesn't like the latest update.

I really didn't like that interface from Camera Raw 12.3.

I could easely download CR 12.2.1 and install it.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html/a

Does this mean I shouldn't upgrade CR anymore in the futere?

I changed my settings in Adobe's Creative Cloud for it.

Damn Adobe!

[SYCANONZONE-III]

I had to reinstall the previous version, I do not want that new update ever and how can I prevent it from updating automatically (only the Camera Raw).

[DarkWarriorUK]

 I think that when you downgrade to an earlier version auto-update is disabled - that seems to have happened with mine anyway.

[moshmosh007]

why i downgraded the new ACR V12.3 back to 12.2:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/why-i-downgraded-the-new-acr-v12-3-back-to-v12-2/m-p/112552...

[GottfriedR]

There is no need to change the surface of Camera Raw! Who knows how to update photoshop and bridge, without the nonsense Version of "new" Camera Raw 12.3?

[JP Hess]

It isn't possible to change the surface on Camera Raw 12.3.  You have two choices, deal with it and wait for the update that is supposed to fix it somehow. Or revert to the previous version and wait for the fix. Whether or not that requires reverting to the previous version of Bridge, I don't know. I'm using Camera Raw 12.3. Don't mind it, that's all I will say about it. Here is the link for the previous version of Camera Raw.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html#12_x 

[R Royse]

I am perfectly happy using Camera Raw 12.2.1,  but if they don't update camera profiles for it when new cameras are released  then we're screwed.

[DarkWarriorUK]

The big question, Mohit, is whether or not the engineering team are looking at a way to appease both sets of users so that Photoshop/Bridge users keep their useable interface and Lightroom users can keep new one

[moshmosh007]

hi Mohit, is there any option to install both ACR old and new versions till all the "fixes" are done? (on mac, maybe log in from other user or maybe other reasonable "trick"?  

[nosomi]

Hi Mohit,

I would be nice to inform the users, when you fixed the problem. Starting from the Bridge my raw editor stops working and  my Lightroom too. And its really annoying when "Adobe hel" is always "check your hardware, are you Administrator or does your windows 10 work and so on.

[JP Hess]

If Lightroom isn't working it isn't related to the camera raw plug-in because Lightroom isn't dependent on that plug-in. Camera Raw is only utilized when transferring a raw file from Lightroom to Photoshop to make the necessary conversion. When working with raw files in Lightroom, all of the technology necessary is provided within the Lightroom program itself.

[TheDigitalDog]

If Lightroom isn't working it isn't related to the camera raw plug-in because Lightroom isn't dependent on that plug-in.

When you ask to Edit in Photoshop, the rendering is called off to ACR. ACR then takes the raw and parametric edits, does a render all 'behind the scenes' and what you see is the rendered image in Photoshop proper. But otherwise indeed, LR does what it does without ACR.

[JP Hess]

Yeah, you and I have gone the rounds on this one once before as I recall. Camera Raw is used as a bridge to get the image from Lightroom to Photoshop, that's true. But I have read comments from users so many times who think they can update Lightroom by installing the latest Camera Raw. And it just ain't so. Some users just don't understand the relationship between Lightroom, Camera Raw and Photoshop.

[johnc19722285]

Horrendous...Really is time for an alternative now, had enough of all these updates and constant fixes. Some people have to work and not constantly beware of all the changes and bug fixes it wastes so much of my time.

[RenatoNPhoto]

I turned back to ACR 12.2.1 and noticed Bridge doesn't connect to it (actually one time it did and most of times not). So I downgraded Bridge too. One week later I used the Bridge image transfer from SD function and suddenly transfer stopped, the card lost all data (before completing transfer)  and it had to be formatted. The sad thing is that it happened again weeks later with another card the same way. Fortunately there is a nice expensive program that recovered the files before I formatted it. Maybe it is a coincidence or maybe this downgrade did something. 

[jacekz76528112]

Try this set: Bridge 10.0.4, Camera RAW 12.2.1, Photoshop 21.2.0. This set is working for me.

[Lumigraphics]

Adobe is not going to change their plans.

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/camera-raw-12-3-how-to-revert-ui-to-older-ver...

[RenatoNPhoto]

I believe they are ceding to lightroom users because (I believe) these are the majority. And they want ACR to be similar to Lightroom. Wouldn't be better to exist two different interfaces? Classic watches didn't vanish because people wanted smart watches, why should we loose our traditional Camera Raw after we get used to it? 

[TheDigitalDog]

I'm curious to what data you have that:

1. Lightroom users are the majority.

2. they (Adobe) are ceding to Lightroom users.

The two products are now visually closer; a good attribute for software users working in both. So no, two different GUIs for two products that share the identical processing paths and controls is not better for many.

[Fred Baxter]

thedigitaldog the problem is Adobe making ACR just like LightRoom has made ACR as unusable as LightRoom is to actually edit photos particularly when you have large amounts of photos to edit. Having to edit thousands of photos using ACR12.3 adds an exponential amount of extra time due to all the added clicks scrolls and mousing that is needed. The larger the job the more time is needed 30 60 90 minutes just clicking scrolling and mousing.

As you put it the two products look the same where ACR is now as visually distracting to use as LightRoom with all the scrolling up and down to see the tools. It is completely eye irrating, straining and concetration breaking to the user.

LightRoom users are clueless to all this because they are used to the distracting interface and all the unnecesary mousing clicking and scrolling they perform.

[TheDigitalDog]

I accept you can't figure out (clueless about) LR but that's you, not everyone. 

Solutions:

Roll back a version.

Learn and adapt to the new direction.

Find another product.

[Fred Baxter]

Au contraire mon frère thedigitaldog. I am not clueless at all when it comes to LightRoom. I completely understand every thing about LightRoom. The way inwhich LigthRoom handles editing RAW files is completely inferior to ACR12.2.1. Now ACR is just as inferior, less productive and more time consuming to edit RAW files as LightRoom.

What you are suggesting to "Learn and Adapt to the new direction" is really saying learn to accept the inferior UX and adapt to all the extra clicks mousing and scrolling that is needed to get the same thing done.

[TheDigitalDog]

No, I'm suggesting you learn the new way of things that you by admission, don't understand and suggest is inferior. For example, there IS a mode that eliminate scrolling. If you want to learn how, just ask. 

Or don't. Stick with 12.1. Or find another product. Utterly up to you. 

What isn't going to happen, is a reversion to the older UI. Adobe has stated this clearly. The rest is up to you. 

[Fred Baxter]

thedigitaldog where did I make an admission I don't understand? It is not a matter of learning the new way. It isn't even "new" all Adobe has done is turn ACR into LightRoom. As I stated I understand how to use LightRoom. LightRoom has a terrible UI to actually edit RAW files and now ACR has the same terrible UI.