Advanced Action adding effect and trying to display "Next" Button

[JL_AM]

Hello,

I'm new to Captivate 2017 and are currently having a problem when trying to add an entrance Effect to a Group that is shown by means of an Advanced actions.

Ideally the Advanced action does 2 things:

     1.Shows and adds an entrance effect to a group of objects when a button is clicked

     2. Only shows the next button when the 4 buttons have been pressed

The problem arises when trying to add an Entrance effect the Group will not show if I click several times in a row I can see a glimpse of said group but it wont stay in view. If I remove the entrance effect the group and the next button(after clicking all 4 buttons) will show just fine 

I'm not sure if the problem is the order of the instructions or something else but I would really like to have the entrance effect

Here are the instructions I used

Thanks in advance

[Lilybiri]

Looks like you don't know how to use the Preview button in the Advanced Actions dialog box, much easier to read the whole action. Have a look at:

Advanced Actions Dialog box in Captivate 2017 - Captivate blog

Entrance effect EaseInLeft is a motion effect, and that can be tricky when used in an advanced action. What are the parameters for that path and can you post a screenshot of the timeline? In my experience I found it often better to use micronavigation for motion effects. Will try to test if I have all detalils.

[JL_AM]

First of all thanks for answering Lily, your posts and blog have been a great source of information

Here are the images of the preview of the Advanced action and the timeline, In advanced actions I'm not sure where to specify the path 

I came across a post you made in January where you talk about custom effects  https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2259438 , and I will try to set the path save it as custom effect and try to apply that with  Advanced actions to see if that works

Thanks a lot

[Lilybiri]

Hmmm.... That item G_Cliente has also a time-based effect: what effect is that?

Parameters in the advanced actions (under the ellipsis) do not have the path. You have either to accept the default path (which exists for entrance effects) or create a custom effect.

Moreover this slide is paused by two buttons at 1,5sec. Which event do you use to trigger that conditional action?

[JL_AM]

The effect is the same EaseInLeft but is disabled, i was running some tests to see if I could make it work by using the effect outside advanced actions (by deleting the the effect form the action) but it didn't work.

The 2 buttons that pause the slide are the Previous and Next buttons (Red arrows at the sides of the slide), the previous button is always shown but the Next button is set up in the Advanced action to show up only if the user clicks four different buttons

[Lilybiri]

You cannot disable an effect, if it is deleted the fx shouldn't show up in the timeline.

Repeat last question "Which event do you use to trigger that conditional action?"

[JL_AM]

"Which event do you use to trigger that conditional action?" The click on a transparent button called ghost_Cliente, On Success - Execute Advanced Action - Show_Cliente , infinite attempts

That is set up for all 4 buttons that the user have to click

[Lilybiri]

Oops, it is a responsive project (did overlook it until now). Do you use Fluid boxes?  Probablly not because they don't allow grouped objects.

[JL_AM]

I did use fluid boxes for the Image and the texts of the back, but "unlocked from fluid boxes" the ghost_buttons and the G_groups

I have tested some more and if I remove all effects and use a Transition FadeIn on the G_Cliente it still doesn't work quite well but I can see the group faintly in the back, maybe the fluid boxes are pushing back the group when an effect is applied to it?

[Lilybiri]

You have to be consistent when using fluid boxes or you'll end up with very strange behavior. Unlocked objects can appear anywhere when you change screen size. If you want more control, try a static fluid box or switch over to Breakpoint view development.

[JL_AM]

Lily thanks a lot for your input

I have found the problem, so to recap the initial problem was that when trying to use advanced actions to make a "Next" button appear after clicking 4 buttons and also add an Entrance effect for information that appears when said 4 buttons are clicked, the information wasn't displaying properly (effects didn't work or the display box with the information wouldn't show)

The issue was that the slide had an On Enter - Show -Caption (I must have absentmindedly put it in... I use the scroll wheel of my mouse a lot) so that was making the effects flicker in the back

And another thing that I did to make it work was in the Advanced Actions tabs I separated the actions at the Decision section so one tab of the decision is the conditional action that show the "Next" button and the other tab is the standard action that Shows the information and adds an Entrance effect

Hope someone finds this useful in the future

[Lilybiri]

That would have been my suggestion, I always try to avoid putting the commands that have to be done anyway in a conditional action. Much better work flow.

Maybe next time for debugging, you could consult the Advanced Interaction panel (F9) to check which events are triggering actions?