Exit
  • Global community
    • Language:
      • Deutsch
      • English
      • Español
      • Français
      • Português
  • 日本語コミュニティ
  • 한국 커뮤니티
0

Captivate next button on top in quiz slide

New Here ,
Jun 25, 2015 Jun 25, 2015

Hi,

I am working on a new eLearning (please see images below).. then next button (bottom right) sits on top of the cyclist image (this image appear when the user answer correctly), however when I publish the project (second image) the cyclist image appears on top of the next button which makes it impossible to click the next button.

Can you please advice on how to change the staking order for the next button to sits on the top? thanks

Untitled1.png

Untitled2.png

1.7K
Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines

correct answers 1 Correct answer

Community Expert , Jun 25, 2015 Jun 25, 2015

Got it, and know cause. Feedback captions or shapes will always appear on top of everything, that is also the case for buttons, shape buttons, click boxes! Now I understand what is happening: you replaced the feedback caption by that image and that is causing the issue. The Next button is not acting as a Next button, but it is clicking on the slide (second step of the submit process) that is advancing the slide, not the Next button.

I hope this explains what I mean? There is a way to have images

...
Translate
Community Expert ,
Jun 25, 2015 Jun 25, 2015

What is this Next button? Can you explain: shape button, on Master slide, timed for rest of project...

All embedded objects on a question slide have top priority. The default second step for the Submit process, instructions for which appears in the feedback caption has been eliminated, how did you do that?

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
New Here ,
Jun 25, 2015 Jun 25, 2015

Hi Lilybiri, the next button is the standard button you normally get when you create a quiz slide, I then changed it to be an 'Image Button' and selected the button I have created in Photoshop.

RodWard‌ in the timeline view when I select the next button then go to 'Modify' menu the 'Arrange' options are greyed down.. In 'Master slide' view I selected the quiz master slide and made sure the next button is set to 'Bring to top' but it still appearing behind the image.

I also selected the 'Master Slide Objects On Top'' check box

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Jun 25, 2015 Jun 25, 2015

If it is an embedded object (Next normally doubles as Skip during Quiz) it should be on top of the stack all the time. I asked you also how you did change the two-step Submit process, because default way is to Click on the slide or press Y to execute the actions specified on Quiz level. Your approach to use the Next button is not the way Quiz slides are designed at all.

I tried to explain the design, and some tweaking possibilities in this post:

Question Question Slides in Captivate - Captivate blog

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
New Here ,
Jun 25, 2015 Jun 25, 2015

I haven't changed any of the default processes, all I did was change the look of the next button.

The reason I am using the next button is because every slide on the project includes a back and next buttons so for consistency.

I have created a new quiz slide and keep it exactly as it is apart from expanding the correct answer feedback to overlap with the next button, hopefully that will explain it better

Edit view:

Untitled1.png

Runtime view:

Untitled2.png

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Jun 25, 2015 Jun 25, 2015

Got it, and know cause. Feedback captions or shapes will always appear on top of everything, that is also the case for buttons, shape buttons, click boxes! Now I understand what is happening: you replaced the feedback caption by that image and that is causing the issue. The Next button is not acting as a Next button, but it is clicking on the slide (second step of the submit process) that is advancing the slide, not the Next button.

I hope this explains what I mean? There is a way to have images appear, but don't replace the feedback because you'll always have this issue. Did you read the blog post?

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
New Here ,
Jun 26, 2015 Jun 26, 2015

It makes total sense, however what it sometime really bothering me is that this is a creativity application and sometimes you need to think out of the box which is hard when companies put these rules (or restrictions).

I had a look at your blog and it's as always very well written and informative (well done) and I have noticed this part:

"Replacing the 'Press Y or click on the slide' by a 'Next button'

OK, I do know that you cannot add a button, which is an interactive object, to any question slide. But since this step is in reality triggered by a click box that covers up the whole slide, any object that looks like a button (image, rectangle) will cheat the user to click on it, and he is just triggering the Success action of the click box."

This could be a possibility to modify my image (the biker) and add a static image of the next button to as you put it "cheat the user to click on it" but I decided to investigate further (thanks to you)..

I then noticed another link to you other article titled "Customizing Review Messages in Captivate 5.5 or 5.0" which included a link to this post  Using custom "Correct/Incorrect" images and followed your instructions and that's what I came up with

- Inserted 2 images (correct.png and wrong.png) very original I know and set them to invisible

- Created 2 Advanced actions (screens below)

- Added actions to execute these actions of success and failure (screen below)

correct.png

wrong.png

action.png

What I have noticed that this method will only work if you give the users only 1 try at the questions as it's only executed at 'Last Attempt' so what I did is enabled 'Retry Message' and replaced the retry feedback caption by the same 'wrong' image..

so, if the user pick the wrong answer he will see the 'wrong' image (feedback caption replaced by wrong.png) and the next button will be hidden (behind the image) which makes sense because I don't want them to go to the next slide unless they answer correctly, if they pick the correct answer OR they reach the maximum number of tries then the will see the appropriate images (triggered by the advanced actions) and the next button will be available for them to click

Thanks Lilybiri, you are an inspiration ‌

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Jun 26, 2015 Jun 26, 2015
LATEST

I'm glad you figured it out, and that my blog could help. Especially about Quiz I have been writing so much, because lot of user want to tweak the pretty rigid design.

You write 'a creativity application'? I believe the problem is that Captivate is used a lot on a very low level by users who don't want to spend time to learn it. Captivate has a lot more features than most users think, it is much underestimated contrary to the big Adobe applications like Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign. Out of that frustration I started blogging about something more complicated than the very basics.

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Jun 25, 2015 Jun 25, 2015

Have you checked on the timeline to see where these buttons are positioned in the stacking order?  The higher up the order of layers, the closer to the top they should be to the top.

Sometimes Captivate seems to indicate in Edit mode that an object IS on the top of the timeline when in reality its not and this only becomes apparent when you play the project at runtime.

Try selecting the button and use the toolbar icon to Bring Selected Object to the Front.  That usually fixes it.

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Resources
Help resources