Pretest quiz - help!

[InesCosta]

Hi!

I’m trying to create a quiz that defines the type of communication of each student (it’s a pretest). I have several sentences that can be answered as “agree”/”disagree”. Each sentence will match to a type of communication and the type that as the greater number of sentences, is the student’s type.

I’m completely lost… can anyone help me, please? I have Captivate 8.

Thank you!

Inês

[Lilybiri]

Pretest questions are no really what you need, I'm afraid. What do you want to do with the results? That is more important, than which type of questions you are using. This is an old post, which I once wrote to answer a similar question on the forum:

Graded Survey? - Captivate blog

Maybe it woud be easier now, but just posted this example to show that the questions are not the problem, but what you want to do with the results.

Pretests are just meant tyo branch the learner based on the results, and they cripple navigation. They are not meant for what you explaineD.

[InesCosta]

Thanks for your help, Lilybiri, but it seems that this is not quit what I need… This survey tells me if I would or would not be a good teacher. What I need is a survey that gives me 3 possible answers: whether I’m the assertive, aggressive or passive type of communicator.

I’ve tried to adapt your blog example… no success!

[Lilybiri]

What do you want to do with the results, please!!!

As I mentioned: it is not the questions that are the problem, you can even use a radiobuttons interaction for your goal but how do you want to use the results?

[InesCosta]

Sorry! You’ve already asked me that! I forgot!

This is a very simple survey. I just want the student to know his type of communication. So, I just need one slide with the result (assertive, aggressive or passive). I will not use this result; it’s just information for the student.

[Lilybiri]

The students will mark if they are assertive, aggressive or passive, or will it be decided based on other choices?

The approach mentioned by Louise is similar to what I explained in that former blog post. You have to be careful when using 'buttons', and 'increment' because that will happen also when the user changes his mind on a slide, and clicks on another option. It is necessary, if you want to go that way, to have a Submit button, not just let them click on an option. Same can be achieved with radiobuttons interactions, with MCQ (as I explained). MCQ is the easiest way if you have a 'numbered' version, because the numbers can immediately be used since they are stored in cpQuizInfoAnswerChoice.

@louiseb....  I know it is difficult to see all answers when coming from the elearning portal, but this thread is already pretty long with many answers, and yours was the first I also gave. I'm still not sure whether the choice is based on a sequence of multiple choice question or not.

[InesCosta]

Students will have several sentences with two response options: agree/disagree. Those answers will determine the type of communication. 

[Lilybiri]

Use T/F question in that case, and change the word True to Agree, and False to Disagree. Turn the question into a survey question. You have one action (After survey) which you can use to trigger a shared action, where you increment a user variable on Agree, and another on Disagree. You need an overview about which variables to be incremented for each question, since you can have only two to be changed with a T/F question. It works fine with shared actions, you need only the two vars as parameters (just double-checked).

At the end the var with the highest value would define the 'communication attitude', which can be done very easily with a conditional action (you'll need two decisions at least).

[InesCosta]

Thanks for your help, Lilybiri!

I’m trying to do what you suggest but I’m having trouble… Sadly, I’ve never used Advanced actions in such an advanced way… I’m trying… very hard!

[Lilybiri]

Do you have an overview of the questions, and how many variables you need to get to a conclusion? You have 3 possible results: agressive, assertive and passive. Can you write down how a numerical result of Agree, Disagree questions can lead to defining the proper attitude? That has nothing to do with Captivate, it is the analysis which I cannot make for you. The example I showed you was about another, similar use case, where I had gotten the analysis. Maybe you can do it with one variable? If the counter is lower than a certain number, you are passive, if it is between two numbers you are assertive, if higher than the highest number you are agressive. Those data you did never offer in this thread.

[InesCosta]

Well, I think it’s a little bit simpler than that, since I have 24 questions and each of the communication type match to a round number (8).

[Lilybiri]

If you have 3 user variables in that case, with T/F questions as I suggested will this be the situation?

1. For the first group of questions, Agree(formerly T)  will increment the first user var v_passive, Disagree will decrement it?
2. For the second group of questions, Agree(formerly T)  will increment the first user var v_assertive, Disagree will decrement it?
3. For the third group of questions, Agree(formerly T)  will increment the first user var v_aggresive, Disagree will decrement it?
4. You end up with 3 values for the variables, the maximum value will define the attitude?

[InesCosta]

In this case, the one that has the higher number (max. 8) is the corresponding attitude.

I think there’s no “decrement” here. For instance: in a sentence that defines the assertive attitude, if I choose “agree” it will add 1 point to the total; if I choose “disagree”, it will add 0. Is this making sense…?

[Lilybiri]

Yes, that is what I meant by point 4. No decrementing, fine. At this moment I'm in a meeting - cheating -  will try to be back later.

Think you have to consider as well that it could happen that two variable have the same score, example: v_one has 6, v_two has 6 but v_three has 2.

[Lilybiri · Accepted solution]

Try this work flow.

• Create three user variables, I labeled them v_passive, v_assertive, v_aggressive
• Prepare the quiz slides (change True/false words to Agree/Disagree and add questions), turn them into Survey questions
• Create this shared action, which has only one parameter: the variable that has to be incremented for that question slide:
  

• Apply this shared action to all question slides for 'After Survey' event; be sure to indicate the correct variable
• At the end of the quiz, you'll need another event (On enter for the results slide or a button) to trigger this conditional action:
  
• You will have to edit that last conditional action, if you want more than just replace a variable 'v_result' with its value. I just inserted that variable in a text container.

[InesCosta]

YES!!!! Done!!

Thank you very, very, very much, Lilybiri! Your help was priceless!

[Lilybiri]

You're welcome

[InesCosta]

Everything was working fine until… I don’t know what I did… but now I’m always “aggressive”. Don’t know why but when I open my Advanced actions (the one that defines the Shared one), the Increment is always missing. What have I done…?

[Lilybiri]

Can you post a screenshot of the shared action? You can open it in the Advanced Actions dialog box, under the Blank (template) top left. Fill in the only parameter (choose a variable) and use the Preview button (looks like a Play button in the top right control panel, first button).

[InesCosta]

I think it's the same as yours... (but in portuguese )

[Lilybiri]

You'll have to debug. Can you insert a text container (shape or caption) on the first slide. Insert the three variables in that container (using the X button in the Character part of the Properties panel). Time that container for the rest of the project, always on top.

Test the project: do the variables update correctly on the quiz slides?

Check the Shared action in the Library, Usage number: do you have as many instances as the number of quiz slides?

Double-check the conditional action at the end: are the conditions correct, did you use AND and not OR?

[InesCosta]

I’m starting to desperate!

The number of Shared actions in the library are the same as the number of quiz slides and the conditions are set to “and”.

About the debug: I did what you suggest and what appends is that the correspondent value of the variables appear in every slide…

[Lilybiri]

This means that the bug is not due to the shared action, since the variables do increment, correct?

It should be the conditional action at the end which will define the value of the variable v_result, can you show a screenshot of that one?

[InesCosta]

[InesCosta]

The "SmartShape_2" is a button that triggers the conditional action at the end.