Setting up Captivate quizzes with 2 different failure messages

[mcyaras]

I found an old message on this bard about using states and advanced actions to create 2 different failure/1 pass messages after a quiz but have some more questions.

To set things up here is what I need to do. I am creating a quiz where an individual will have 2 chance to pass. I want to have one message show up if they pass the exam, one message if they fail the first attempt (allowing them to retake the quiz or exit to review material in other modules) and a third message telling them what to do if they fail a second time (and exit the quiz). My file only contains 2 non-quiz slides there is no need to link to anything else.

I used Lilybiri directions to create the 3 messages using states and advanced actions. What I need help with now, is figuring out the Quiz Preferences settings or another way to generate the appropriate buttons. Not sure if these setting are right or if I need to do something else. Slide 3 is the first question slide.

[Lilybiri]

Sorry, but cannot remember my 'directions'.... It would help if you posted a preview of those advanced actions and tell which event is triggering them. Probably On Enter for the score slide?

About the Quiz Preferences now. I use to recommend to have at least one slide after the score slide. Reason is that the actions you specified for Pass/Fail are only executed when the last frame of the score slide is reached, after the learner's click on the Continue button (which is the most essential button on the score slide). I see that you have set Pass action to Exit. Bit reluctant myself to use that action, would have put it On Enter for the slide after the score slide.

The Failure action will only occur after the last - here second - attempt. You set it to go back to the first quiz slide, but that is contradictory with what you tell in your question. After the first attempt, the Retake button will take the learner to the first quiz slide. If I understood well, this is not what you want to happen after the second failed attempt?

[mcyaras]

Here are your instructions from Jan. 18, 2018. What I need is a way to have the retry button only show up after the first failure. That is where I'm lost on the way to set this up. Perhaps another conditional advanced action is the solution? Thanks.

If it is indeed the score slide that is meant, I would prefer to use one shape as text container with multiple states. However you have to do several things to make it work:

• Delete the Review messages under the button Suiz Result Messages in the Quiz Preferences, Settings
• Make the Review area on the Score slide very small and put it out of the way (do not delete it)
• You have to know that all embedded objects on the score slide (and quiz slides) have absolute priority in the stack. You will have to create your custom text container is a space that is not taken by  such an embedded object. Hence my second tip to make the review area small to create such space.

Using states instead of individual feedback messages will allow you to have not only text but even images and audio in those states.

You have to trigger the advanced action with the On Enter event of the score slide. SmartShape_5 is the multistate shape, Normal state is shown for Passed.

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If you prefer the inidividual text containers as Jeremy described, please group them. It will be easier to write out the advanced action with the 3 decisions:

    Hide Group

    Show appropriate feedback

That way you can duplicate the decisions and will have less editing to do.

[Lilybiri]

That action was to replace the standard Review message on the score slide.

The Retake button on the score slide (I think you mean that button when you say 'retry'?) is a default button with its functionality built in: it will only appear when the first attempt is failed, it will not disappear after the second failure because the number allowed attempts on quiz level is reached.

[mcyaras]

This is what I'm trying now. I added the image of the Retake Quiz button that matches the other buttons I'm using and overlaid it with a Smart_Shape that has no fill or border. Then I created the following conditional Advanced Action. Button1 is the image and Button2 is the Smart_Shape.

[Lilybiri]

That is certainly not a workflow recommended by me, because this probably will not work at all. The embedded objects on the score slide, like those on quiz slides, are always on top of the stack. Moreover having two interactive objects in the same location at the same time is asking for problems. 

[mcyaras]

Here is the screen shot with your name. I forget what I did all the time. Thanks for your help.

What I want is once someone completes the exam 1 of three things occur:

• If they pass, then they get a "Congratulations, you passed" message and a button to exit the quiz.
• If they fail their first attempt, a message that says "you failed but have one more attempt" along with 2 buttons (1) to retake the quiz or (2) exit so that they could review things (this is a final exam so all but 3 slides are quiz slides)
• If they fail a second time, a message saying that they need to do X before they can retake the quiz and a button to exit the quiz.

The instructions below work for creating the 3 messages, but I need help getting the button issue to work so someone can actually jump back to the first quiz slide.

[Lilybiri]

Sure, that is about the Review message where the default was replaced by a multistate object. But there is nothing about the Retake button. You have to use the default Retake button. I never mentioned anything about covering that button because I know quiz design rather well and that is impossible to get functional. You have been doing something totally different, hence I concluded you got this recommendation from someone else.

[mcyaras]

I'm just trying to do the next logical step in dealing with multiple review messages--how to handle the buttons. When testing the multiple review messages (which worked perfectly.--thanks), I realized the buttons were an issue as I did not include a retake the quiz button and there is no easy way to jump back to the beginning of the quiz after the first failure. Sorry for the confusion!

[Lilybiri]

I am repeating once again: you only have to activate the Retake button in Quiz Preferences. It will appear after the first failed attempt, it will automatically disappear after the second failed attempt or after passing the quiz. Do not try to tweak a setup, unless you understand perfectly what you are doing. I have tried to give you this same message hours ago.

You should never fiddle with embedded objects on score/quiz slides for the same reason.