Want to use an advanced action for a click action in software sim (CP9)

Report · Aug 31, 2015

Hi

Normally I use multiple click boxes to perform a click action (no success, no failure), each click box provides a different incorrect "text caption" feedback.

Feedback 1: Retry

Feedback 2. Click X

Feedback 3. Here is a demo of the step (slide continues to next slide which shows a demo of the step).

But I wanted to experiment with an advanced action so that I would just use 1 click box (no success, no failure) with micronavigation (based on Lieve’s article) to display each text caption feedback. (I’m assuming this approach would be easier to implement on all click action slides, especially if I convert the advanced action to a shared action).

I can get this to work for the first two feedbacks but not the last one.

What am I doing wrong?

Regards

Donal.

Here is my setup:

Slide 1: Intro (0.5 sec - 15 frames)

Slide 2: Task 1 – click action

Slide 3: Demo of step

Slide 4: Task 2

Stage (slide 2)

Start frame = 15

Click box displayed after 6 secs (6 x 30 = 180 frames).

When I preview project – this slide (slide 2) pauses on frame 224 (i.e. current frame = 224).

After 1st click and 2nd click I get the slide to return to frame 218 (15 (startframe) + 203).

(returning to this after a holiday and can’t remember why I choose 203)

Timeline (slide 2)

Click Box (cb_1) Properties

“Check” advanced action assigned to click box.

(v_attempts = 0)

Report · Aug 31, 2015

You may need micro navigation (see further) but not for the click box at all. To show the three feedback texts (I labeled them FB_1...FB_3) and grouped them in Gr_FB, this easy conditional action will do the trick:

You don't need to rewind the frames if you provide 3 attempts for the click box. Use this action both for Success and Last Attempt.

However your problem is with the fact that you are leaving this slide with the click box after the second attempt, and have to re-enter it, if I understand it correctly? If you want then the play head to continue immediately to the start of the click box, you'll need to use the On Enter event. This means that you have to track if it is a second visit, and jump ahead if that is the case. That will mean another variable.

Maybe I misunderstood the set up, let me know.

Report · Aug 31, 2015

Hi Lieve

re: My Setup

The problem i was having was that after the 2nd feedback was displayed, if i clicked again nothing would happen - 2nd feedback would still be displayed. (At this stage v_attempts = 2).

My idea was that an incorrect click would rewind back to the frame where the click box was displayed (and not to the start of the slide - I only want the audio to be played once). Click box appears after audio on timeline.

(Maybe i'm using your term "micronavigation" incorrectly - i want to jump to a particular frame and not the first frame)

re: Your Solution

You mention to use your action on "Success and Last Attempt".

But i want the user to advance from slide 2 to slide 4 (i.e. the next task) if they perform a successful click action.

Donal.

Report · Aug 31, 2015

It is getting more confused now. Problem is that you have only two events for a click box:

Success event: when you click ON the click box
Last Attempt event: when you have clicked OUTSIDE of the click box, and reached the number of attempts.

In your setup you'd need 3 events. What I have used in the past, but didn't try it now: have a click box over the whole slide, behind the specific click box you are talking about. If they click outside of the small click box, you click on the big click box and can use its Success event and Last attempt event if you set the attempts to 2.

Sorry, but at this moment I have no time to look for a more elegant solution, maybe there is one.

Report · Aug 31, 2015

Hi Lieve

Are "3 events" needed because the slide does not automatically continue if there is no success action completed?

Also I still don't understand why feedback 3 does not show.

Maybe it's due to it's position on the timeline - its start and end position is the same as click box.

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Here's the attempts-click workflow:

Attempts 0 – 1st click – Execute AA (If Attempts = 0 - Show Feedback 1, Add 1 to Attempts)

Attempts 1 – 2nd click – Execute AA (If Attempts = 1 - Show Feedback 2, Add 1 to Attempts)

Attempts 2 – NOTHING HAPPENS WHEN YOU CLICK

Would expect the following:

Attempts 2 – 3rd click – Execute AA (If Attempts = 2 - Show Feedback 3)

Donal.