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"Redo Chapter" Button with Quiz Slides

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Hello all,

I'm building a pretty "progress-restrictive" course in Captivate 2017 and trying to put in a "Redo Chapter" button at the end of my project files. I want it to Jump to Slide 1, Assign all variables used to track/control progress back to 0, and Change the State of buttons from Visited to Normal. All of that seems to be simply accomplished by piling those Actions into an Advanced Actions attached to the Redo Chapter button.

While I don't think the Knowledge Check slides will be a problem, there are 1-2 Quiz Question slides that must be answered correctly to mark the project as Passed. These slides are located before the slide with the Redo Chapter button on it, but I am not trying to truly "test" their understanding at this point (there is a separate project for the quiz, and they're given unlimited tries to get the Quiz Question slide correct), I just needed something to make sure they are working through all of the material (slide views is not an option).

My question is what is going to happen when the Redo Chapter is clicked, the student re-works through the material, and arrives at the Quiz Question slide(s) that have already been answered correctly once?  Can these Quiz Question slides be reset outside of a Retake button?

Thanks!

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"Redo Chapter" Button with Quiz Slides

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Hello all,

I'm building a pretty "progress-restrictive" course in Captivate 2017 and trying to put in a "Redo Chapter" button at the end of my project files. I want it to Jump to Slide 1, Assign all variables used to track/control progress back to 0, and Change the State of buttons from Visited to Normal. All of that seems to be simply accomplished by piling those Actions into an Advanced Actions attached to the Redo Chapter button.

While I don't think the Knowledge Check slides will be a problem, there are 1-2 Quiz Question slides that must be answered correctly to mark the project as Passed. These slides are located before the slide with the Redo Chapter button on it, but I am not trying to truly "test" their understanding at this point (there is a separate project for the quiz, and they're given unlimited tries to get the Quiz Question slide correct), I just needed something to make sure they are working through all of the material (slide views is not an option).

My question is what is going to happen when the Redo Chapter is clicked, the student re-works through the material, and arrives at the Quiz Question slide(s) that have already been answered correctly once?  Can these Quiz Question slides be reset outside of a Retake button?

Thanks!

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You cannot reset quiz slides with advanced actions.  You need to use the Retake Quiz button.

But if (as you have said) these question slides are not really intended to be used as an assessment, why make them quiz slides at all?  Why not just have them as KC slides too?  Then they would be reset simply by leaving the slide.

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Thank you for confirming my suspicions on the Quiz Question Slides. I have

to ensure the student is completing all of the instructional material

before it marked as passed or complete, and there are individualized

remediation materials connected to each KC slide that is only shown in the

case of a wrong answer. Captivate Support showed me that using KC slides in

place of the 1-2 Quiz Question slides would require controlling the

pass/complete status by Slide Views (in Quiz Preferences). This can't be

done because it would allow the student to tally up Slide Views as they get

KCs wrong, and not have to reach the end of the Instructional Material to

have the project passed or complete. So Support and I concluded that the

last question (or two) would need to be Quiz Question Slides requiring a

100% to pass/complete. Whether the student answers every KC wrong 3 times

before getting it correct, or gets it right on the first try every time,

they need to get the Quiz Question(s) correct to complete/pass the project

(LMS restricts moving ahead based on this data from the SCORM file).

Now that I write this, I realize that I did not ask the Community for any

other ideas, so there could be another slide logic that would work better.

I've built 20+ "chapters" in this way, soooooo redesigning before launch

could take up time I'm short on, but could be helpful when revisiting the

project for improvements.

Any and all thoughts are appreciated, thanks again!!

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You don't need to resort to using slide views just because you are using KC slides.

If you structure your navigation properly, you can still use your KC slides to verify learning and remediate when the learner gets something wrong.  All you need to do is have a scored button on the last slide before the Quiz Result slide and not allow the learners to reach the slide with that button unless they have done well enough with the KC slides.  Make it necessary for the learner to click that scored button to reach their quiz results, which will then show them as being passed.  It's a bit of a fudge, but it then gives you the ability to have the KC slides being reset all of the time simply because the learner leaves those slides to move to another one.

Would that do what you need?

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I haven't used a scored button before, but I think I follow what you're

describing. In effect, simply clicking the button replaces getting the Quiz

Question correct. Do I have that right?

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I frequently have a final "Next" button along the lines that Rod suggested worth 1 point. I then set the course to pass with a score of 1. Works well for me.

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Yes that's the idea.  Your learners should ONLY be able to click that button if they have succeeded in whatever way you have determined necessary to prove sufficient mastery of the topic.

The button can be set to just 1 point (as a minimum) but sometimes that looks bad on the Quiz Result slide (if you don't hide that variable).  So feel free to give it a much higher score if you want.  If your KC slides have been set up to assign User Variables with score values, you could even just display those results on the Quiz Result slide instead of the button score.  Either way will work.

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In cases where I use this method I do not have a quiz result slide - a quiz that just functions to prove completion is really a "internal use only" device that the learner doesn't have to be aware of.

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ChrisB,

We create the same sort of training, where we remediate to 100%. The user get stuck in a loop between the Knowledge Check question and remediation slide until they answer the question correctly.

I use some JS on the last slide of the lesson to send the completion to the LMS. This doesn't require the user to click a button.

The JS code:

SCORM_CallLMSSetValue('cmi.core.lesson_status', 'completed');

SCORM_CallLMSCommit();

Don't forget to turn quiz reporting on!.

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Agreed.

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