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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Hello! I'm rigging my first character ever, and I'm having lots of fun, but I've hit a bump in the road.....instead of the mouth opening, the head gets bigger! It seems to be a 'handles' problem? How are handles deleted? xxooScreen Shot 2017-06-26 at 10.38.43 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-06-26 at 10.38.51 AM.png

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Adobe Employee , Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017
Try this: https://adobe.ly/2sasm1p The whole puppet was tagged as a second head, which threw everything off. You only need the Head group to be tagged as a head. The head had a draggable handle on it. Face > Mouth Strength was set to 143%, the default is 0%.Hope that helps!

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Nie character! Hmmm - Hard to say without seeing the puppet file, but if I had to guess it's probably something pulling the mesh that shouldn't, like the eyebrows (do they have a crown icon next to them?), or the eyes, or the head has a jaw tag somewhere throwing stuff off, etc. Could be a few things.

Could you share here or DM me your .puppet file (File > Export > Puppet) via a shared link on Google Drive, Dropbox, or Creative Cloud to take a closer look?

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Yes!! Thank you so much. Character Animator - Google Drive

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Try removing the +/crown from head and see if that helps.

If it doesn't, can you upload the .puppet (File > Export > Puppet)? It looks like you just uploaded the .chproj + folders and .ai file. The puppet file is an easier way to share artwork + rigging.

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Elisa Video.puppet - Google Drive

I removed the crown and now the whole thing distorts!!Screen Shot 2017-06-26 at 11.35.13 AM.png

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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BTW I'm following your tutorial, it's really good!!

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Try this: https://adobe.ly/2sasm1p

  • The whole puppet was tagged as a second head, which threw everything off. You only need the Head group to be tagged as a head.
  • The head had a draggable handle on it.
  • Face > Mouth Strength was set to 143%, the default is 0%.

Hope that helps!

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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How do I delete tags and handles?

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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And I apologize for my lack of experience, but Try this: https://adobe.ly/2sasm1p

doesn't seem to work any better?

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Works for me - I don't see any of the old issues anymore.

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When you select something, the tags column on the right will let you tag or untag parts. If it's lit up, it's tagged - if not, it's not.

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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WOW that looks amazing! Thanks!
Where is the tags column?? I can't find it anywhere!!

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Also, my Character animator isn't opening your revised puppet, I can't get it open; that's the reason I thought it was no different!

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Are you running Beta 6? When you open up CH, what does it say next ot the Help menu?

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If not, you should update via the Creative Cloud desktop app.

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Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Yes! Beta 6. I have a creative cloud account, the latest of everything. I'm just a lot more creatively inclined than technical!

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Oh - I think you keep importing the puppet but not clicking "add to new scene" to add it to a new fresh scene. So in the Project panel (upper left corner) with Elisa10 selected, for example, click "Add To New Scene" and you should see it working.

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Engaged ,
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Cool! But where are the tags? (You are SO patient btw )

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Yes that worked! And WOW!!

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Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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See the panel on the right with the face and body in your last screenshot called Tags? That's the tags panel.

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Engaged ,
Jun 26, 2017 Jun 26, 2017

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Ha! I new it would be something I should have caught on to! OK, got it now, getting ready to start video 2! Thanks again!

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Engaged ,
Jun 27, 2017 Jun 27, 2017

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The one you fixed is so amazing! I'm trying to figure out why your file is so much more responsive to both audio and visual queues than mine is? I compared all the sensitivity settings and made them the same, but your file moves more and talks more?
Also, they both seem to use the same mouth poses over and over, the F and the S, I'd like to see more of the O's but when I try to set up a trigger (like I did successfully with angry and worried eyebrows) nothing happens?
Thank you so much for your guidance. I'm thrilled to have the actual creator of the video helping me! Elisa Video.puppet - Google Drive

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 27, 2017 Jun 27, 2017

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The main thing is that my version removed the head tag from the top Elisa puppet group - that caused a ton of conflicts. Once the "Head" group was the only thing tagged as a head, everything worked.

For keyboard triggers for lip sync, try arming (click the red dot) next to the behavior Lip Sync > Keyboard Input. Then when you press the first letter of any viseme, it will show up - no need to add extra key triggers.

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Engaged ,
Jun 27, 2017 Jun 27, 2017

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I'm pretty sure I did that?? 'Elisa Video' is mine, 'Elisa 2' is the superior one you did. Yours moves, mine doesn't very much at all.
Also, I noticed when refining mouth expressions, when I went to 'edit source' on yours, did it create a new Illy file?
Elisa Video.puppet - Google Drive
Elisa2.puppet - Google Drive
thank you ❤️

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Engaged ,
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Also, I found Lip Sync but where is keyboard input?Screen Shot 2017-06-27 at 1.03.28 PM.png

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 27, 2017 Jun 27, 2017

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Yours still has the top level tagged as Head:

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Yours still has the head also tagged as draggable:

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Lip Sync > Keyboard Input will only show up in Record and Stream modes.

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