re: As for the number of developers that use it...it hardly
matters
if it's the most popular or not. Heck, Firefox is only 10% or
so of the
browser
market out there...but that hardly means it's not worth
using.
You don't quite get it do you? CF having so few developers
impacts an
organisations ability to have faith in the product on many
levels. Not least
of which is finding developers when they need them. Wether
you are aware of
it or not, in many places cf developers, skilled cf
developers, are hard to
come by. And with so many folk leaving cf for bigger and
better things
(perceivedly, I admit) just makes it harder for an
organisation to feel good
about selecting cf.
Firefox only having 10% means nothing - theres no connection
between the two
things. A browser user ca make the decision to use a browser
and without
much thought or care switch to another at his whim, and tehn
back again, and
do this 5 times each week. Simply a poor analogy.
re: Just take a look at Scorpio and you will see that Adobe
continues to
develop it, adding features we have asked for and need
No, not adding features we ask for and need. Perhaps adding
them years and
years later, well later than the competetion had them. CF is
way behind and
only justy now starting to catch up. Thats my opinion. All
Adobe have to do
is produce a pro CF IDE aimed at developers and they may just
have the
beginnings of a well rounded platform that is worth the price
and can handle
the competition.
re: And statements like this are why you cannot trust
anything this troll
says.
People can see and find out for themselves, as they have been
doing. Hardly
matters how you refer to me. I like CF, but Adobe/MM have not
done the right
thing by it. Wrapping a few tags around existing Java
functionality is a
cheap and easy way to look like they are spending money.
Where's teh
marketing campaign is what I'd like to know. Used to see ads
for cf
everywhere, even in my monthly PC mag. Now you see it
nowhere, not even on
bookshelves in computer/technical stores!!
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> And this is kind of why its best to avoid coldfusion for
any new
> development
> projects. MM and Adobe will not / did not do very much
to make it catch up
> to the competition - far too late for that. (unless they
open source it
> and
> folk actually start to use it en masse)
>
> And statements like this are why you cannot trust
anything this troll
> says. He
> just spouts this stuff like it's gospel and there's no
basis in fact to
> back it
> up. Just take a look at Scorpio and you will see that
Adobe continues to
> develop it, adding features we have asked for and need,
and has a tour of
> the
> user groups scheduled to promote it. In many areas CF is
way
ahead
> of
> the competition so it's silly to talk about it catching
up...as is the
> same in
> any software area, it has things that it does better
than the competition,
> and
> things that it does worse. Which one you might choose to
work with may
> have
> more to do with the needs of your application than
anything else. Which
> was my
> whole point in mentioning BD...there are some things it
does better than
> CF...but other things it does not. They each have their
strengths and BD
> is a
> very nice option for many people. And competition is
always good...those
> features I love in BD will most likely work their way
into ColdFusion as
> well
> down the road. As for the number of developers that use
it...it hardly
> matters
> if it's the most popular or not. Heck, Firefox is only
10% or so of the
> browser
> market out there...but that hardly means it's not worth
using. Or that it
> won't
> continue to grow and enjoy more popularity each year.
Maybe Adobe will
> decide
> to open source CF at some point...but since they've said
that sales have
> been
> up with every release, not sure why they would do that.
BlueDragon as well
> continues to gain market strength and sales. We even now
have another CFML
> server, Railo, that has a free use option. It hardly
makes sense to say
> the
> language is dying when we continue to see more players
in the field...not
> to
> mention more frameworks coming out and gaining
popularity, more
> conferences
> (and current ones growing every year), more user groups,
blogs, etc. etc.
>
> John P
>
>
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