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LEGEND ,
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WTF, Adobe??

Why are you insisting that I use the Akamai Download Manager (which I never trust download managers) in order to download anything???

Based upon advice of others, I have attempted to bypass it by clicking on the "File 1 of 1" link.  But that doesn't give me the CF 11 installation file.  It still links to "Adobe ColdFusion 11 - AkamaiDLM.exe".

WHY CAN'T I DOWNLOAD ANYTHING WITHOUT THE DLM????????????????????

^_^

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Can't download ColdFusion Server 11 without Akamai Download Manager??

LEGEND ,
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WTF, Adobe??

Why are you insisting that I use the Akamai Download Manager (which I never trust download managers) in order to download anything???

Based upon advice of others, I have attempted to bypass it by clicking on the "File 1 of 1" link.  But that doesn't give me the CF 11 installation file.  It still links to "Adobe ColdFusion 11 - AkamaiDLM.exe".

WHY CAN'T I DOWNLOAD ANYTHING WITHOUT THE DLM????????????????????

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Adobe Employee ,
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Hi Jack,

Apologies for the inconvenience caused. The download for all Adobe products will be via the Akamai Download Manager. You can't skip the DLM for downloading ColdFusion. In case you will have any questions please feel free to contact us on and we will be more than happy to assist you.

Regards,

Anit Kumar

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LEGEND ,
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Y'know what.. nevermind.. I've heard that Blue Dragon is better than ColdFusion, anyway.  I'll just download that and not deal with a download manager.

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Community Beginner ,
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BlueDragon is better than ColdFusion? HAHAHAHA

In all seriousness:

The download manager is in place because the ColdFusion install file is

rather large and to give the quickest download times, it's hosted

through Akamai CDN. This allows the best global download speeds.

However, as it's a large file, the download manager makes sure all the

right pieces come down in the right order. It's not an intrusive

application.

DW

WolfShade <mailto:forums_noreply@adobe.com>

Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:41 PM

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Can't download ColdFusion Server 11 without Akamai Download

Manager??

created by WolfShade <https://forums.adobe.com/people/WolfShade> in

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<https://forums.adobe.com/message/7275920#7275920>

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LEGEND ,
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A) I've been told by Blue Dragon developers that BD will add functionalities long before CF does, and that it's at least as good if not better than CF.  I consider these developers to be reliable sources.

B) I don't CARE what the download manager is supposed to do.  I have a fast enough internet connection that the file downloads quite fine and error-free without any download managers.  And I don't TRUST download managers, as it is; I'm especially not going to trust a download manager from AKAMAI, of all organisations.

^_^

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Agreed. I don't trust download managers either. In fact, my company's security policy does not allow download managers to be installed. For that matter, I HATE how many Adobe products push the toolbar de jour on every update -- but that's another topic.

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Similar issue - which email should I use to contact you?

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Adobe Employee ,
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You can contact us at cf.install@adobe.com.

Regards,

Anit Kumar

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LEGEND ,
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Thank you, @rahul_u.  Even after the flippant answer from @Anit_Kumar about not being able to avoid the DLM, I might consider using the links that you have graciously provided.

V/r,

^_^

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Adobe Employee ,
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Hi Jack,

We understand that, you are having trouble with DLM. But, as Dan mentioned,

Dan Wilson wrote:

However, as it's a large file, the download manager makes sure all the

right pieces come down in the right order. It's not an intrusive

application.

Blue Dragon can't be an alternative to ColdFusion. Moreover, the Akamai Download Manager is not specific to ColdFusion, but for all products across Adobe. And we have to keep in mind the "downloading" process for everyone - for those who have a high speed internet connection and for those as well, who don't.

Hope you understand.

Regards,

Anit Kumar

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LEGEND ,
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I've understood from the very beginning.  That doesn't mean I have to like it.  And I don't.

I also know (as can be determined by the fact that I also complained about DLM and CF Builder 3) that this is for all Adobe products.  That is precisely the reason why I'm seriously considering uninstalling ALL Adobe products from my computer and never thinking about Adobe, ever again.  And the fact that you keep on and on about what a wonderful thing it is only convinces me further that Adobe doesn't give a rodent's rectum about what Adobe clients (the only reason Adobe is making money) want.  "Let's just cram this crap down their throats.. they'll LOVE IT!"

Guess what.. no.. they don't.  And I know I'm not the only one.  So, why does Adobe pull this crap?

Why am I wasting my time talking to a brick wall?  You've clearly drank the kool-aid. 

^_^

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Hey Rahul,

I attempted to use the link you provided to download the dmg for CF11.  The system requests a username/password in order to continue, but my Adobe user/pass do not work there.

Did the link change or is there a user/pass I can utilize.

I need the CF11 version, not the CF2016, as that is the version my employer wants validated to run their website.

Thank you,

William

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Adobe Employee ,
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Hi William,

There was a recent change in ftp password. I have updated the links with new password.

It should be downloadable now.

Thanks,

Rahul

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Rahul, those links are not working again, it prompts the user for a server-level user/password. It looks like the FTP Password has changed again. Can you update those links again?

At the same time, though this thread is about people needing the DLM-free direct links, could you also post information about getting to the standard DLM Akami based links? I can find downloads for all types of ColdFusion 11 addons and extras but not for the core of ColdFusion 11 Standard

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HI Rahul:

I hope you can assist.....the links still require a username/password and we really need the media download for CF 11 Standard.

Thanks

Tom

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The password expires in every three months. I have updated the password in the link.

-Rahul

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Hello Rahul,

I can't download Coldfusion 11 Developer Ed. for Solaris/Windows using the links above.  Can you help?

Thanks & have a terrific Tuesday!

John

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Updated the password.

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Thanks!! 

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One year later, sorry,

I have the same situation,

my client needs CF11 to validate their application.

And they only can get CF16.

I hope Adobe will give them a CF11 licence instead of a CF16.

This is a must to have the application running alive.

Else it is dead.

Did you succeed on your side ?

Thanks for answer and participation.

Pierre.

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Wow.  I started this thread over two years ago, and it's STILL an issue.

In response to plarts​, does it HAVE to be CF11???  Or could Lucee be used?

We are seriously considering Lucee, at this time.  Adobe has practically killed CF, and the price is no longer affordable.

V/r,

^ _ ^

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Sorry to be late,

response to WolfShade

Thanks for your comment and advise,

We are in France, and Adobe may not really know what is Coldfusion.

I use Coldfusion since Version 3. Great.

My client is in the process to ask a CF11 key in place of CF16.

I hope they will get it.

Since version 3, I did hundred of Information Systems using Coldfusion and Access datasource (really great flexibility)

With version 16 , access datasource do not work anymore.

Considering Lucee, I started with it, most of the work can be swapped to Lucee (Lucee is great)

But, in the actual Information System I wrote,

I use CF tags to read and write Excel datasheet, I need to make a lot of test to ensure that Lucee

work exactly the same way.

And also, Under Coldfusion and Access datasource, I can manipulate the .mdb files as I like,

like, hot replacement of mdb file at a certain status of the system. I just reset the database.

And bring the new records ID restarting to 1. (new semestre starting, and archive all old records)

Under Lucee, I use "youcanaccess" driver to make access datasource, and when the datasource is up,

I am unable to touch the mdb file. (delete and replacement, that gives an error)

So that's why I stay with CF for the moment.

Thanks for any comments, and may be advise for a perfect driver to set up Access datasources.

Or very simple databases like Access, easy to manipulate. (just file management)

I will let know if Adobe France allow the replacement of CF16 key to a CF11 key.

Pierre.

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Hi Pierre,

Can we (Adobe) get in touch with you to discuss the situation and assist you further?

Regards,

Anit Kumar

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Yes, I'd like to.

I have a phone meeting next friday with my client to see what we can do.

I tried all mentionned in forums to try to make CF16 have Access datasource,

with no success. (days and days of trials).

With CF11, it is immediate successful. (32bits)

Pierre.

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Hi Pierre,

Let me know, if you need a call further, post your next Friday's call.

Regards,

Anit Kumar

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After phone call with the client,

They will ask a degrade of Coldfusion 16 to Coldfusion11

This is the only solution we have to make our information system (a year of work)  working with Access mdb files.

Any suggestion to keep CF16 will be appreciated.

See the thread :

Re: create data source for microsoft access on 64 bit server and ColdFusion 16

Thanks for help,

Pierre.

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Rahul,

Can you please update the ftp links with new passwords.

Thanks

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LEGEND ,
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There are other software companies that also use DLMs for their software downloads.

However, the difference between Adobe and most of the others is that most of the others will give their users an option to either use a DLM or download without DLM.  Why cannot Adobe do the same?

^_^

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I have to agree with WolfShade... you need to provide an option to download without the DLM... you even actually provide the link on the popup to download files 1 of 1 directly... but the link does not work. Instead of arguing for the DLM just fix the issues with the link so direct download works...

For someone that is going to get this on a linux box, doesn't have a window manager on it... to go through the steps of downloading locally... then FTPing or moving the files to the server and then installing is quite cumbersome.... you are providing a server software not a desktop application... so a Direct download method on this is more important then your other offerings. In-fact I would I think due to the type of software it is the first option should be the direct download and second option be the DLM.

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Old post, but I'd like to add I'm in the same boat...

I can't download crap because I run Linux.. so I attempt in my Windows VDI. Still no go as I have to download the *linux* installer via the Akamai NetSession which only gives me the options of "Install Now" in the browser pop up or "Open File ColdFusion_11_WWEJ_linux64.bin" in the Akamai NetSession window.. NEITHER OF WHICH DO ME ANY GOOD.

Also, in the pop-up window where it clearly states:

"We're sorry, but we've detected that your system is using a browser that is not compatible with the Akamai Download Manager.

To download the files directly, click here.
File 1 of 1
"

Which, clicking the File 1 of 1 does exactly nothing. No file. No download. You'd think if you make a product for Linux, you'd offer a way to download it *using Linux*. Not to mention downloading it in the "Akamai NetSession" deal makes me hunt to try to find where in the heck the file is actually saved to.

Also, halfway down this page it clearly states you can download the files directly without using the Akamai download manager: Akamai Download Manager FAQ even though up above you're saying you have to use the download manager.

So please tell me, how in the crap can I download the Linux 64-bit installer without using the Akamai download manager as *I CAN'T USE* the download manager?

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I ended up finding the .bin file in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Akamai\Cache\trials3.adobe.com\adobeproducts\cstd\11\linux64

What a pain in the ass you have to deal with downloading the file on Windows, hunting down the file location, and then moving it over to the Linux machine rather than a direct download on a Linux desktop and a 'scp' over to the linux server. Ugh.

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I'd like to second this and point out how stupid this process is.  

1.  you can only download on windows or mac

2.  you then have to install separate software to download the program you will be installing on a different machine.

3. after downloading you are given an "install now" prompt (which i obviously can't do.)

4. the file is stored in a non-standard (ie: Downloads) directory.  It is hidden in a system directory.

Way to go guys. Your attention to detail is amazing.  I can tell you it is stuff like this that makes me think twice about using coldfusion.

rjr162...  thanks for finding the installer for the rest of us.

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And another response - ADOBE - do you even GET the fact that your downloader does NOT work on Linux???? You CANNOT download the linux version of ColdFusion or ColdFusion Builder from a linux machine?!?!?!?!?

Do you even WANT people to use your software?

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And considering the mass exodus from Windows 10 to other OS's (like *nix), this will become critical, very quickly.

But Adobe probably won't do anything different.  Keep sailing toward the falls, Adobe.

^_^

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I spent over 30 minutes earlier this week trying to download a trial version of CF for Linux without the download manager. It is ridiculous all the steps Adobe makes a user go through to simply download trial software.

  1. Register with Adobe
  2. Sign-in
  3. Fill-out marketing survey
  4. Download the "Download Manager"
  5. Install the Download Manager
  6. FINALLY, get your trial download

And as sh3rp4 mentioned, it is outrageous you can only download the trial with Windows or Mac.  I was on an Ubuntu machine when I needed to install CF, but I had to switch computers, follow steps 1-6, then copy the file to the Ubuntu machine so I can finally use the software.


I would love to know the thinking that led to this process. If I just wanted to test out CF I'm not sure I would go to all that trouble. Talk about high barrier of entry!

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I've heard good things about (open source) Blue Dragon.  Apparently, they add new things before Adobe adds the same to CF, in many (not all) cases.

I'm seriously considering making the switch, myself.  But the PITA process that I had to go through to get it installed on my Ubuntu Server VM (then the PITA process of getting MySQL going on another Ubuntu VM), I might delay that decision for a bit.  But, ultimately, I think I'll make the switch.

V/r,

^_^

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WolfShade‌,

I'd also take a good look at Lucee.  It is more feature-complete than OpenBlueDragon.  Plus it is the engine that the CommandBox CLI/REPL/Package Manager runs on.

-Carl V.

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Thanks rjr162 - I spent > 30 mins trying to find where the bin file was until I stumbled across your post - way to go!

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Hi, Carl Von Stetten‌,

I might just do that.  One question, though:  If I develop locally in Lucee, will that code work with CF hosting, or will I have to find a hosting service that has Lucee as an option?

V/r,

^_^

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Sadly, my answer is: it depends.  Most of CFML is cross-compatible, but there are implementation differences on some tags/functions.  And there are ColdFusion tags/functions that Lucee has not implemented at all (like 3rd party integrations such as CFPDF, CFHTMLtoPDF, CFSHAREPOINT, etc.). Only you can determine if any of the missing or differently implemented tags/functions are in use in your application.

The only way to be sure is to develop your application and test against both platforms.

-Carl V.

EDIT: I should have mentioned that there are also tags/functions in Lucee that don't exist in ColdFusion - as like it's predecessor Railo, Lucee is in some ways on the cutting edge of the improvement of the CFML language.  If you use the CFDocs site to research tags/functions, they do a pretty good job identifying which platforms are supported for each tag/function.

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